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[–] DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago
[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

The real skill isn't the advice - it's convincing executives that contradicting your previous $100M recommendation somehow validates hiring you again.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago

And if you are wondering why the German military is being made fun of so much: it's McKinsey again. But no worries, we took care if it. The minister of defense in charge back then is long gone. Cause she is the president of the European Commission now. Multiple of her children have worked for McKinsey in the past. What a coincidence!

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Consulting services rarely are there to help figure out what to do, they're there to help convince other people that what you want to do is the right move.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All consulting is like this. It’s a way to offload blame for your decisions by not making any in-house.

Our company paid a consulting firm 100k to deliver the same message our internal had been saying for 5 years.

Oh yes. The board member used to work for that consultancy.

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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

A lot of high paying decision making jobs could be done much better if they were actually given to people based on their talents and not who they know or are related to.

The hardest part about the job is getting it

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From my (fortunately) brief experience in software consulting, I can confirm that is an important unwritten rule of the job. It doesn't matter what exactly you sell to customers, as long as they are willing to buy it and come back. It explains why a lot of software is dogshit.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 7 points 1 day ago

"I can't produce anything, so I'll take money away from other people doing business" ~consultants

Man I wish I knew how to grift rich people like this

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

TLC used to be The Learning Channel. Before it was β€œhere’s a bunch of children who are being sexually abused behind the camera,” it was educational outreach. Vocational training. Satellite college courses for people in Alaska and Appalachia.

Then Discovery bought it. Fuck Discovery.

One of my favorite channels. I liked learning new stuff. Factual stuff. Not conspiracy theories disguised as history.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 178 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Well, consulting is often used because they need an answer to a question. That may be open-ended like:

"What moves should we make to expand our business?"

But other times they just want confirmation:

"Should we merge with Discovery?" (Sure, I guess. Here are some reasons you could. cha-ching)

"Should we split with Discovery?" (Sure, I guess. Here are some reasons you could. cha-ching)

Other times they just need to pay people to give them excuses to lay off people. McKinsey's always available for that.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 120 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

When Chipotle got a new CEO (Brian Niccol, who has since become the Starbucks CEO) a few years back, they were headquartered in Denver. But the CEO lived in Newport Beach. So they brought in a consulting management firm to examine where the best place in the country was for them to have their corporate headquarters.

After weeks of analysis - surprise, surprise - they determined that the best place they could possibly have a corporate headquarters was in Newport Beach, where the CEO lived.

So they fired most of their corporate workers and moved the office to be closer to the CEOs house.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago (1 children)

β€œSorry we don’t do remote work and you’ll have to come into the office.”

β€œCounterpoint: …”

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Starbucks has a mandatory 3 day a week RTO policy, but this same CEO did not relocate from Newport beach to Seattle.

Instead, he has the corporate private jet fly him 2000 miles round trip every week.

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[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago

I have experienced this where I work. There is a consulting company that gets rolled out to make packets full of "data", graphs, summaries, and surveys that always manages to support the unpopular thing the boss wants.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

McKinsey:

For when you have no fucking clue how to do your job, and want authoritative, plausible deniability about that.

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[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Other times they just need to pay people to give them excuses to lay off people. McKinsey’s always available for that.

What would you say... you do here?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

Get paid to do the work of someone who could be employed for a reasonable salary, but the board or CEO wants the answer to come from someone outside the company to avoid taking any blame.

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[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sounds like a job that would be easy to replace with ChatGPT.

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[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 151 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Consulting services are vital because they improving corporate synergy by utilizing market solutions and relocating potential where it is needed most.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 90 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Don’t forget that they also leverage institutional assets to extract value using best practices!

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We'll circle back to that.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

"What's your advice?"

"My advice is to not take my advice. That'll be 63 million dollars, please."

[–] Coyote_sly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

More like "tell me what you already decided to do, and pay me out the ass to create a justification for it so you can pin it on us if it's a giant fuckup after the fact'.

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Certainly Sir! Money well spent!"

You have to understand why they are employed though - somebody stands to gain from doing some thing, so the way they get to justify doing that thing is to hire these people, so they come in, deliver a report that says the thing is the best thing to do with graphs that go up, and it happens, McKinsey gets paid, the beneficiary gets what they want and life goes on.

That plus there's a massive incentive for overpaid executives to farm out any actual decision-making to consultants. They could lose their cushy jobs if they did something unpopular that made the news and hurt stock prices. But if the decision was promoted by an expensive consulting firm, that launders the blame. It hurts the business in a fundamental way, obviously, but publicly traded companies have not been very focused on fundamentals up until lately. Tighter monetary policy should have changed this, but the paradigm has been slow to shift for many.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 56 points 2 days ago (3 children)

In, fire 30 percent of the workforce, new logo, boom, out.

You are now a fully trained management consultant.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I had a friend who did consulting right out of college. Half the time he said it was his job to suggest layoffs so the people in charge could pretend it wasn't their idea.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Lean leader certified

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

Is that normal shitposting you're doing?

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

This company also advised multiple large opiate manufacturers.

[–] KarlHungus42@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago

They've developed a perpetual consulting loop. Genius.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 30 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Isn't the google ceo a McKinsey stooge?

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 22 points 2 days ago

Yes, he is. It explains a lot.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago
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