using state power to persecute fascists is bad π
this post was submitted on 01 Jul 2025
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I mean, it kind of is when theyβre being persecuted for something that can apply to already marginalized people in this country instead of being persecuted for being fascist.
It's already happening to marginalised people though. Why are we drawing the line at Musk?
I mean it would be bad if they deported him to South Africa. I wouldn't want to inflict him on them. They should deport him to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean instead.
He wants to go to Mars, doesn't he? I have a very funny idea.
Launch him with the next batch of starlink satellites.
Like that dumb livestream of his Tesla in space but instead itβs his corpse flailing around
I think the mariana trench is lovely this time of the year
I hear that there's lots of Marinara sauce in there!! Musk will love it!
He can live in exile on Mars
Musk is going to become the Dem candidate for presidency in 2032, isn't he?
Musk/Cheney 2028
Newsom/Musk 2028
Not unless they change/ignore the constitution. Musk was born in South Africa so he isn't eligible.
It makes him the perfect candidate for the dems though, they can run him and then the republicans can just declare him ineligible so the democrats automatically lose. Bam! All the benefit of funding and donations, 0 actual risk of needing to actually "govern"
Yeah plus it'd be funny to watch Musk lose an election.
SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE
I think a wrinkle on that whole saga that isn't discussed often enough is that while Obama was born in the US, McCain objectively was not.
Except none of it even mattered because both were born to US citizens.
Plus now they want to get rid of jus soli, so where Obama was born would matter even less.
I actually think it does matter that the white guy objectively failed the standard by which people began a years long whisper campaign against the black guy
In situations like this the best opinion to have is this one
"The kind Vladimir Ilyich would have shot everybody here."
Fake, no condemnation of Hamas
Yes, won't someone help the world's richest man?!
Like come on. I think there are other more vulnerable people out there who don't own a social media platform.
owen jones changed his twitter handle from ownejones84 to owenjonesjourno. In my heart i truly believe this was because people called him owenjones88
iirc Owen Jones has been very sus on Palestine in the past
Owne Jones is such a spineless hack
I mean, it's not like he or we are going to cry over deportation of a fascist just for disagreeing with other fascists, but it is an extremely bad power for the US government to feel able to exercise, that can be used en masse against leftists, too.
Further normalising deportations is only a good idea to fascists (and maybe accelerationists). Not saying anybody should sacrifice anything or go marching for 
, but a principled opposition to it isn't the worst or most impractical stance.
Where I'm coming from is: he's not the first, he won't be the last, where's the outage for the people who aren't shitheel billionaires? Yes, I want to live in a country where people don't get deported for political reasons, but we already don't live in one of those, so it's funny that it might affect musk, one of the few people who I actually, truly wish suffering on.
Counterpoint: This is extremely funny and should happen
counterpoint: billionaires aren't people, and we shouldn't treat them as though they are.
I always see this precedent argument whenever fascists do something to other fascists, but the US government doesnβt need precedent to act against leftists. There is no point in defending one of the most odious and evil people alive against the machine he helped put into overdrive. They are coming after leftists regardless of whether or not they successfully deport Musk. If they canβt deport him they arenβt going to just throw up their hands and go βwelp looks like we canβt go after the left now that the worldβs richest fascist bought his way out of troubleβ. I guess this sounds harsh but in my view this is just one step removed from liberals who think they can cast spells against the state using legalisms.
the best I can say for him is he gets to wait in line behind the millions of other people he helped condemn
Musk can fight his own battles, he's a billionaire. Any shred of attention given to "defending" him is being denied many people millions of times more vulnerable.
Also, whatever victory he might win will be neatly carved out to only apply to people like him. His victory would not actually help us.
Very telling what Democrats decide to get off their asses to defend
Owen Jones is british IIRC, not really a dem.
What if Based Elon buys the gold Trump Card for 5 million?
Owen Jones can join him on an exploding rocket.
Unleash the eyup lovely
I mean sure but he goes last in line and can deal with whatever defense trickles down onto him when the non-monsters are all protected
Nah, no it doesn't. Deport his ass to Guantanamo.
He can go free once the rest do too.
GET HIM OUT! Folks, he's gotta go!
It costs zero fucking dollars just to shut your mouth and not pipe up, a lesson Owen hasn't learned
He threatened Mamdani first, but Owen didnβt have a problem until he threatened Musk?
can mamdani finance guardian singlehandedly? didn't think so