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The majority of pro AI spam on the fediverse gets spread by just a handful of accounts. Usually it is people posting to one of the big "tech" pages from pro-AI PAC websites (that 74million dot org bullshit for example) or one of the billionaire mouthpiece outlets (futurism, ars technica, biz insider), and then they cross-post and repost everywhere else.

This strategy makes it so the only ways to stop seeing the shit is to get really good with personal filters or (more likely) users will block the spammer account and the communities that allow them. Notice how both of these methods also tend to block people who are bashing AI.

Seems like a behavior we need to figure out how to call out and get mods to help with? I guess Fuck AI people should start volunteering to mod Tech news? Oh no, what have I logically walked myself into...

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not following how blocking this handful of users involves "getting really good with personal filters". In jerboa it's like three taps to block someone, and the last time I used voyager or lemmy through a desktop browser it was similarly easy. And how does blocking people uncritically posting that content risk blocking people bashing AI?

This just seems like a repeat of the witch hunt post about the db0 instance a few days ago. I can only speak for myself, but the last thing I want is for this to become some sort of community where we organize against specific users or communities. Fighting amongst ourselves in this little slice of internet social media will have no effect on the actual companies and market forces pushing this slop.

A big part of what makes lemmy what it is is that people aren't doing that sort of witch hunt shit here. If you want to curate other communities, then make your own copy and enforce your rules on it, or work your way into their mod team.

Most of all, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. And holding their head under just gets you a drowned horse. Speak out as you can and curate your own experience.

[–] ordinarylove@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

sorry! the way you misunderstood my rough mechanics description there, yeah, that would be kinda of ridiculous

i was trying to describe two discreet methods i feel are imperfect, 1) blocking users and communities OR 2) get really good with content filters (far harder/ less viable at scale/ horse to water situation)

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

it's like three taps to block someone,

Three taps for you, for me, for them, for everyone.

When problems affect many people, it's neat to solve them en masse.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Could I see the data your claims are based on?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I'm less concerned about AI stories being posted from legitimate news organizations than I am the proliferation of AI porn communities on Lemmy.

There's ONE GUY creating and modding 19 different AI porn communities.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 14 hours ago

It's nice not being federated with any of that shit.

[–] ordinarylove@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 13 hours ago

sure if they were legitimate news orgs

the problem you describe definitely worries me too but again does that just mean Fuck AI people need to be modding?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

No big deal, just block those comms.

[–] bifurtyper@programming.dev 10 points 14 hours ago

Report AI posts. If the admins don't see it as a problem they wont.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 20 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

PieFed has an issue open for that: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/950

It's hard, though. Ideas (which work in real life) welcome.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

What did Ars Technica do, though?

[–] regedit@feddit.online 11 points 16 hours ago

There's an 'A' and an 'I' in their name!!!!

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

I’ve been blocking pure Ai communities and blocking individuals that out themselves as Ai apologists.

Best I can think is make rules that Ai is only allowed into Ai communities.

I would use broader filers but “Ai” sucks to filers because it’s only 2 digits. “LLM” can be filtered but am so sick of seeing Ai slop.

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It seems like you're exploring how AI spam spreads and how people handle it online. Your observation about AI content being spread through personal accounts and broader communities is an important consideration for ethical AI development.

...jk lmao that was AI-gen. I think blocking accounts is good enough? At least that's what I tend to do. Although it'd be helpful to have some sort of community-driven list of accounts that you could automatically import and block. Actually it would be helpful with more than AI spammers: we could have a list of trolls, lgtbq+phobes, etc. That way one could easily find and block whatever they don't like, without getting the mods or admins involved (although that'd still be necessary for obvious rule violations, of course).

I don't understand why you say that's prone to blocking people who are bashing AI though... like, if they spam AI content I imagine they tend to praise AI as well? Idk, maybe I didn't understand you.

[–] ordinarylove@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

you say that’s prone to blocking people who are bashing AI though… if they spam AI content I imagine they tend to praise AI as well? Idk, maybe I didn’t understand you.

Exactly this. For example, CMU is currently under the extreme corrupting influence of Palantir. However when CMU pushes AI propaganda, the various outlets adjust their headlines to frame it for clicks, whether that be "AI is WRONG 60% of the time! That's why we need to use it anyway." or "AI is RIGHT 40% of the time! Does that mean it has a soul???"

These shitty articles then end up everywhere and CMU gets to spread their propaganda to people who have whatever range of opinions.

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Well yeah the funniest thing is that in this community there are those who think that AI is just a tool and not a problem, and one of them openly argued with the moderator and was kicked out of this community, by the way, this happened recently lol. :3

[–] ordinarylove@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

2nd time on this thread you've insinuated someone will mess with me if i don't be quiet :3

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, I don't know, I'm just hinting at a possible future. Corporations lately think they can do anything, so i wouldn't be surprised if the worst happens.

[–] ordinarylove@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Please explain in moderator bannable detail what you think is going to happen to me

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world -2 points 16 hours ago

Okay, it seems you didn't get it, a real human moderator won't do anything to you unless you do crazy things or talk about forbidden topics.

I just expressed my opinion, you can ignore me if that's convenient for you.