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[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 265 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is giving strong "I hope nobody finds out I went to Epstein island" vibes.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 108 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Vibes? I can feel the shaking all the way over here.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 90 points 5 days ago (4 children)

As a writer, how can he be this clueless about character continuity and congruency?

All this does is implicate his involvement. I know he was coked out of his mind for decades but I never would've associated him with Epstein previously... Come to think of it, cocaine was probably how he met Epstein/Trump.

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[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 156 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (53 children)

Man, who would've thought that the guy who wrote a child orgy scene would turn out to be a pedophile? Edit: Didn't expect this to blow up and result in multiple bans... whoops.

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[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 4 days ago

I mean, there is almost certainly no "The List", "2003-02-23: Donald John Trump, 3 pedophilia, paid by bank transfer".
There are terabytes of call logs, text messages, videos, photos, location logs, witness testimonies, whatever samples, and fuck knows what else.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 100 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's really funny how all this denial is focused on the existence of a concrete "list." What everybody means, and what anyone honest knows, is that the request is for the release of a list of the people who went to the Epstein island and were associated with the convicted child sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein himself.

If you can convict Maxwell, there is evidence of what happened. Whether or not someone has already written a list is completely irrelevant.

There are exactly two types of people who would deny this:

  1. Die hard, believe-anything-Trump-is-saying-today, MAGA faithful
  2. paedophiles or people otherwise on the list

I wonder which one Stephen King is....

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago

It's nice of the people on the list to out themselves. At this rate we can just compile it ourselves.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Stephen King is on the list.

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 119 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I was just reading up on this subject, and for the life of me, even if King believes this to be true, I can't understand why he wouldn't just keep his trap shut.

I think there are two different lists people are talking about. One of them definitely exists, and the other one may or may not exist.

There is no doubt that law enforcement has created a list of Epstein's clients. It was even the subject of a judge's order. There are probably many such lists of people who have definitely given Epstein money, for example.

The question is whether there was some sort of list that Epstein kept himself, which probably would only be useful for blackmail purposes. If there is no blackmail intended, then Epstein probably would have intentionally avoided making such a list, which would also incriminate himself and could possibly get him killed. The existence of this list was originally asserted by right wing conspiracy theorists during Biden's presidency. It seems the only person who has confirmed this list exists is Pam Bondi, who is completely incompetent, but lies frequently in order to cover for her incompetence.

This list may or may not exist. But I think if you assert at this point that it doesn't exist, it only makes you look like a pedophile. It seems the height of stupidity to say that it doesn't exist if you don't have a horse in the race.

[–] troed@fedia.io 98 points 5 days ago

Epstein probably would have intentionally avoided making such a list, which would also incriminate himself and could possibly get him killed

Exactly. If such a list existed he would surely not survive long in jai ... oh

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[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 48 points 5 days ago (6 children)

That part of IT might make a whole lot more sense all the sudden

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Oh yeah, every time I talk about king's IT, I go "It's great except that one scene, right?" and anyone who's read it agrees.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 54 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

Wow, what a massive POS, and misusing "UFO" to boot. Yeah, everyone has seen something flying that they couldn't identify at some point or another. "UFO" does not automatically mean "extraterrestrial spacecraft."

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[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 45 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Lol. Guess who's on the list. 🤣🤣

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 81 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I'm confused. Epstein definitely did the crimes of trafficking children to be raped by wealthy people.

Why would a client list not be a real?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think it's very possible there isn't an actual "client list".

I think it's more about making a list of visitors to the island that have somehow supported Epstein around that time.

"Have some fun on my island. Also, can you help me get a loan and this bill passed?"

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[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 33 points 5 days ago

Even if there isn't a document with a big header that says "Client List" and firm documentation of what crimes were committed, we know there are flight logs, there are victim statements, and there are records of financial transactions.

That is absolutely enough to bring charges against at least some of these people. We are accepting a false narrative that there has to be some chiseled in stone singular document listing bad actors.

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[–] Ragdoll_X@sh.itjust.works 92 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Also:

This also reminded me that in his short story "The Jaunt" Stephen King felt the need to include the following lines for no apparent reason:

Ricky and Pat were watching him seriously, his son twelve, his daughter nine. He told himself again that Ricky would be deep in the swamp of puberty and his daughter would likely be developing breast by the time they got back to earth, and again found it difficult to believe.

[–] mrbeano@lemmy.zip 43 points 5 days ago (5 children)

And the graphic description of a child being raped in "The Library Policeman"

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[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Sounds a lot like Stephen King is very likely to be a pedophile that has raped children on Epstein's island 🤔

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[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 53 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I wanna tell King he's a shithead pedo, but I just don't feel comfortable among the people shitting on him.

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[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I'd like to remind this thread not to jump to conclusions. It's not exactly unheard of for a notorious coke addict to be confidently wrong about something. I'll believe he's a sicko when I see his name on the list and not a second sooner.

Edit: Am I really being downvoted for not immediately joining a mob and instead waiting for proof? "We did it ~~reddit~~ lemmy!"

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 16 points 4 days ago

I have a suggestion: Just assume every billionaire diddles kids anyway.

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[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean, he wrote IT so idk if this would surprise anyone lol

[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You telling me there's a chance that a writer, known for snorting enough cocaine to kill an elephant whilst writing a story where a group of boys run a train on a young girl, might have visited an island known for its drugs and sex trafficking young girls?

🤔

[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 days ago

I know it sounds like a stretch, but yes.

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Never meet you're heroes. Especially not if you're underage.

[–] TRock@feddit.dk 59 points 5 days ago

Stephen King confirmed himself as a pedophile

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Woah everybody is going wild and jumping on Stephen King like piranhas haha. He said one vague things and now everyone here is accusing him of being a pedophile. Fucking crazy!

[–] jve@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Huh. I thought he publicly quit twitter and moved to ~~blue sky~~ threads?

https://xcancel.com/stephenking/status/1857165864346267891?s=46&t=PJVWm80PofrGWNJIfp3Bsw

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ok I love Stephen King but now I'm like wtf. of all the hills to die on

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Tell me you're on that list without telling me you're on that list.

[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 56 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The guy did write about a bunch of children running a train on another child to "recharge their matches" in the book 'it' acting like it was a liberating experiance.

Guy also described a girl pissing and shitting herself in "the girl who lived tom gordon" in detail which weirded me out even as a kid

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[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 48 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It costs nothing to shut the fuck up.

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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 17 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This isn't surprising really, especially after the Neil Gaiman thing, but it is disappointing.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The only sense I can make is that he's saying the administration lied about it as a prop to get elected.

But, of course, prominent Nazi Pam Bondi said it was on her desk AFTER the election. And Republicans just voted not to release something they claim doesn't exist. And logic states that if it does exist and it exonerates Trump they'd be plastering it on every wall in every city, town, and village in America. Sooooooooo.......

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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 30 points 5 days ago (13 children)

So he's afraid of being on it. That's all there is to this.

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[–] ofk12@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago

Bet he's on that list the fucking nonce

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

Wow, the replies on some of King's tweets are really telling....

No chance that chode isn't a trump supporter.

E: also, I didn't realize just how many of King's books involve child abuse... I knew about the obvious ones, but goddamn...

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I can believe there's no neat little notepad with a bunch of names on it, but there's definitely a shit load of evidence incriminating a bunch of powerful people, given what we already know.

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