This is giving strong "I hope nobody finds out I went to Epstein island" vibes.
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Vibes? I can feel the shaking all the way over here.
As a writer, how can he be this clueless about character continuity and congruency?
All this does is implicate his involvement. I know he was coked out of his mind for decades but I never would've associated him with Epstein previously... Come to think of it, cocaine was probably how he met Epstein/Trump.
Man, who would've thought that the guy who wrote a child orgy scene would turn out to be a pedophile? Edit: Didn't expect this to blow up and result in multiple bans... whoops.
I mean, there is almost certainly no "The List", "2003-02-23: Donald John Trump, 3 pedophilia, paid by bank transfer".
There are terabytes of call logs, text messages, videos, photos, location logs, witness testimonies, whatever samples, and fuck knows what else.
It's really funny how all this denial is focused on the existence of a concrete "list." What everybody means, and what anyone honest knows, is that the request is for the release of a list of the people who went to the Epstein island and were associated with the convicted child sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein himself.
If you can convict Maxwell, there is evidence of what happened. Whether or not someone has already written a list is completely irrelevant.
There are exactly two types of people who would deny this:
- Die hard, believe-anything-Trump-is-saying-today, MAGA faithful
- paedophiles or people otherwise on the list
I wonder which one Stephen King is....
It's nice of the people on the list to out themselves. At this rate we can just compile it ourselves.
I was just reading up on this subject, and for the life of me, even if King believes this to be true, I can't understand why he wouldn't just keep his trap shut.
I think there are two different lists people are talking about. One of them definitely exists, and the other one may or may not exist.
There is no doubt that law enforcement has created a list of Epstein's clients. It was even the subject of a judge's order. There are probably many such lists of people who have definitely given Epstein money, for example.
The question is whether there was some sort of list that Epstein kept himself, which probably would only be useful for blackmail purposes. If there is no blackmail intended, then Epstein probably would have intentionally avoided making such a list, which would also incriminate himself and could possibly get him killed. The existence of this list was originally asserted by right wing conspiracy theorists during Biden's presidency. It seems the only person who has confirmed this list exists is Pam Bondi, who is completely incompetent, but lies frequently in order to cover for her incompetence.
This list may or may not exist. But I think if you assert at this point that it doesn't exist, it only makes you look like a pedophile. It seems the height of stupidity to say that it doesn't exist if you don't have a horse in the race.
Epstein probably would have intentionally avoided making such a list, which would also incriminate himself and could possibly get him killed
Exactly. If such a list existed he would surely not survive long in jai ... oh
That part of IT might make a whole lot more sense all the sudden
Oh yeah, every time I talk about king's IT, I go "It's great except that one scene, right?" and anyone who's read it agrees.
Wow, what a massive POS, and misusing "UFO" to boot. Yeah, everyone has seen something flying that they couldn't identify at some point or another. "UFO" does not automatically mean "extraterrestrial spacecraft."
I'm confused. Epstein definitely did the crimes of trafficking children to be raped by wealthy people.
Why would a client list not be a real?
I think it's very possible there isn't an actual "client list".
I think it's more about making a list of visitors to the island that have somehow supported Epstein around that time.
"Have some fun on my island. Also, can you help me get a loan and this bill passed?"
Even if there isn't a document with a big header that says "Client List" and firm documentation of what crimes were committed, we know there are flight logs, there are victim statements, and there are records of financial transactions.
That is absolutely enough to bring charges against at least some of these people. We are accepting a false narrative that there has to be some chiseled in stone singular document listing bad actors.
Also:
This also reminded me that in his short story "The Jaunt" Stephen King felt the need to include the following lines for no apparent reason:
Ricky and Pat were watching him seriously, his son twelve, his daughter nine. He told himself again that Ricky would be deep in the swamp of puberty and his daughter would likely be developing breast by the time they got back to earth, and again found it difficult to believe.
And the graphic description of a child being raped in "The Library Policeman"
Sounds a lot like Stephen King is very likely to be a pedophile that has raped children on Epstein's island 🤔
I wanna tell King he's a shithead pedo, but I just don't feel comfortable among the people shitting on him.
I'd like to remind this thread not to jump to conclusions. It's not exactly unheard of for a notorious coke addict to be confidently wrong about something. I'll believe he's a sicko when I see his name on the list and not a second sooner.
Edit: Am I really being downvoted for not immediately joining a mob and instead waiting for proof? "We did it ~~reddit~~ lemmy!"
I have a suggestion: Just assume every billionaire diddles kids anyway.
I mean, he wrote IT so idk if this would surprise anyone lol
You telling me there's a chance that a writer, known for snorting enough cocaine to kill an elephant whilst writing a story where a group of boys run a train on a young girl, might have visited an island known for its drugs and sex trafficking young girls?
🤔
I know it sounds like a stretch, but yes.
Never meet you're heroes. Especially not if you're underage.
Stephen King confirmed himself as a pedophile
Woah everybody is going wild and jumping on Stephen King like piranhas haha. He said one vague things and now everyone here is accusing him of being a pedophile. Fucking crazy!
Huh. I thought he publicly quit twitter and moved to ~~blue sky~~ threads?
https://xcancel.com/stephenking/status/1857165864346267891?s=46&t=PJVWm80PofrGWNJIfp3Bsw
Ok I love Stephen King but now I'm like wtf. of all the hills to die on
Tell me you're on that list without telling me you're on that list.
The guy did write about a bunch of children running a train on another child to "recharge their matches" in the book 'it' acting like it was a liberating experiance.
Guy also described a girl pissing and shitting herself in "the girl who lived tom gordon" in detail which weirded me out even as a kid
This isn't surprising really, especially after the Neil Gaiman thing, but it is disappointing.
The only sense I can make is that he's saying the administration lied about it as a prop to get elected.
But, of course, prominent Nazi Pam Bondi said it was on her desk AFTER the election. And Republicans just voted not to release something they claim doesn't exist. And logic states that if it does exist and it exonerates Trump they'd be plastering it on every wall in every city, town, and village in America. Sooooooooo.......
Bet he's on that list the fucking nonce
Wow, the replies on some of King's tweets are really telling....
No chance that chode isn't a trump supporter.
E: also, I didn't realize just how many of King's books involve child abuse... I knew about the obvious ones, but goddamn...
I can believe there's no neat little notepad with a bunch of names on it, but there's definitely a shit load of evidence incriminating a bunch of powerful people, given what we already know.