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pointless backstoryI was born in the 80s and some of my earliest memories where the Karate Kid films. If anyone here is in their 40s, they'll remember the obsession with karate. Kids were signing up for karate lessons left and right. I recall something on TV where kids were demolishing a house using karate (obviously it was staged by whatevs).

Then the 90s happened, and the West got paranoid about Japan taking over. Pop culture produced absurd books about Japan taking over the US, and people literally feared it happening.


I like anime. It's definitely better than most white culture shit. It just feels like the #1 theme or trope for a video game or series (that isn't the West) is Japan. I'm just utterly bored to death of Japanese schools, Japanese feudal themes, yakuza shit, Tokyo streets, etc. Yes, it's 1000 times cooler than New York or Texas. I'd rather play Ace Attorney or a Yakuza game than COD or Modern warfare. I'd rather watch JoJo's Bizarre Adventure than Family Guy. Japanese stuff is often cooler than Western stuff.

God I can't complain if Japanese developers want to make something that they know with the language they speak. My big gripe is non-Japanese developers imitating Japan because that's what sells. Think Genshin Impact, Battle Realms, or Blue Archive. My steam recommendations are filled with Japanese themes made my non Japanese developers. No, I'm not offended. I'd just like to play a game, once, that doesn't have samurai and geisha. It would be neat to learn about another culture that isn't Japan. Maybe go to another continent.

Wouldn't it be neat to play a stealth game in Nigeria or Bolivia, and not yet another game with Samurai.

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[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Debt of Honor (1994)

Rising Sun (1992)

hmmmmm I wonder

Tomorrow, When the War Began (1993)

ha

[–] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 50 points 3 days ago (3 children)

monkey paw curls

Here is your viking/nordic mythology game!

[–] gramxi@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

they never include the best shit like bathing, smelling pretty, and trying to murder your friend because they gave you a gift that was too fancy

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

and trying to murder your friend because they gave you a gift that was too fancy

No wonder those Nordic people are unfriendly lol

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The reason why there's so much Japanese or Japanese-flavoured media is that the Japanese government has actively funded their media sector for decades with the explicit purpose of swaying people to hold pro-Japanese views as a kind of political soft-power. These efforts have been broadly successful. The material conditions that facilitated these efforts (allowed to gain from the spoils of imperialism to serve as a buffer against communism, a one party state allowing long-term planning, no official military with which utilize hard political power) are largely due to the US-shaped sociopolitical situation that emerged out of post-WWII Japan.

Consequently, many pieces of Chinese/Korean media actively copy the (now-popular) anime aesthetic partly because it's known to succeed, and partly because of the effect.

A pair of (rather long, admittedly) videos on the subject. Disclaimer, the presenter is somewhat of a lib and also a lawyer, but makes a convincing case imo:

Anime, Propaganda, and Soft Power Politics

Why Do So Many Gacha Games Pretend To Be Japanese?

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[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago (12 children)

I'm hinestly surprised we aren't seeing more Chinese-themed things. It's been a niche fandom in the west for a while now, but with China being what they are today, I'm surprised they aren't more prominent in media, whether made in China or elsewhere

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I'd actually really like to see more Chinese themed stuff.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

Wuxia! There are a million adaptations of Legend of the Condor Heroes and its sequels. The novels are awesome, too.

[–] Ithorian@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

New Gods: Nezha Reborn and White Snake (and it's sequel Green Snake) are Chinese animated movies. They're all really good. New Gods particularly is weird in a really good way.

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[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Their darn movies are taking forever to get pirated. Where's my copy of NeZha 2 at?

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

ong one of the highlights of the year for me was the new captain america movie bombing so hard they put ne zha 2 into imax theaters, shit was an absolute treat skeleton-guns-akimbo

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[–] Des@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

my partner is absolutely hooked on Chinese anime, fantasy dramas, music, etc (korean too).

some taiwanese (i know same thing) because there's more open queerness but i think over time that gap will close

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

It’s definitely been ramping up in the last 2-4 years. We had black myth wukong last year that got really popular plus a handful of other chinese-themed action/souls-like games out or on the way.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd be cool to see some middle eastern stuff that isn't just a backdrop for another "war on terror" fps game.

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[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think just being willing to be critical instead of fetishize goes a long way. Seven Samurai is an all-time great film for several reasons, but one of them is that it challenges the mythology of the samurai in several ways and, despite the title, the only literal samurai in the narrative are people killed off-screen at an indeterminate point in the past because they were terrorizing peasants.

Edit: Also, Jojo has an extremely Japanese inflection, but only parts 4 and 8 are set in Japan (and 3 starts in Japan but by episode 2 they leave and don't come back until basically the epilogue).

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seven Samurai is an all-time great film for several reasons, but one of them is that it challenges the mythology of the samurai in several ways and, despite the title, the only literal samurai in the narrative are people killed off-screen at an indeterminate point in the past because they were terrorizing peasants.

I thought Kikuchiyo was the only one who wasn't a samurai? The rest were, but they weren't wealthy or powerful samurai.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

Technically, the remaining six are ronin rather than samurai. They used to be samurai, at least to the point of coming from a samurai family in the case of the youngest (I don't remember the exact details if they are even given), but you aren't really a samurai unless you're actually serving under a lord, which none of them are when the film takes place. So six are ronin and one is a peasant or something but larps as a samurai.

We can infer from a couple of factors, not the least of which is actually possessing a substantial amount of armor, that the samurai killed prior to the movie were probably real samurai. It would also be much harder to get away with the crimes they were committing if not for them being under a lord, and if they were career criminals in the eyes of the law then they would probably just be referred to as more bandits by the villagers (because that's what they would be).

At least, that's my understanding of it.

[–] FedPosterman5000@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

I was reading a blog post where the author was specifically going off about how media perception skews so much towards major areas, that whole nations (in the specific case, Greece) are reduced to the major areas (Athens) and this erases smaller regions and their cultures (e.g. Peloponnesus). What I’m saying is, if they are going to do Japan again, I’d like a Kagoshima walking simulator pls

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (6 children)

make all genre media Bulgaria-themed nicholson-yes

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[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I get sad about this a lot. Like in the wasted human potential sense, thinking about all the cool artistic aesthetics and stories we're missing out on because other cultures don't get fostered with the same kind of media budget.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I watched some classic Senegalese films recently and was dismayed to learn that domestic funding pretty much dried up in the 1980s. Wikipedia:

Even today in Senegal many cinematographers and people who have knowledge of film production, particularly in Dakar, but don't have resources. Any films produced since have almost entirely been financed from abroad and exhibited at international film festivals rather than in Senegal.

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

Genuinely depressing.

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[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Joke answer: My Summer Car

Real answer: Never Alone (Kisima Ingitchuna) is based on Inuit lore.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't think any Finnish person would dispute the accuracy of My Summer Car

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I realize it's not exactly leaving the hemisphere, but I've always thought Thai culture is way underused in games

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

A Thai person I know once showed me a Thai anime and it was quite neat. For the life of me I can't find it though.

Edit: searched my discord message history and found it!

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[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Honestly I'd just like something other than the fucking Warring States era or Meiji Restoration.

Give me a lavish prestige rendition of Tales of Genki. Or something about the formation of Japanese culture via trade with China in the 700s. Anything but fucking Samurai slop.

[–] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I can’t get extra mad at all of those Tokyo games when there’s also all of those goddamn New York and LA games. I wish studios would set their stories somewhere that isn’t the same four or five places over and over again, but a big corporation isn’t going to subvert the forces of cultural imperialism. Quite the opposite, really. This is all part of the cultural industries reinforcing the global cultural hegemony.

After all, many of the big games set in versions of US cities aren’t even made by US studios (eg GTA, Cyberpunk). Just like how many of the films set in the US are actually made in Canada. This is all part of cultural production under capitalism. The market logic says that people already watch films and tv shows and play games set in New York, LA, Tokyo, and London, so therefore all films and shows and games must be set in New York, LA, Tokyo, and London. You want to set your story in Tonga or Malaysia or Chile? No, that’s not allowed, it must be in New York or LA or etc etc.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

TBF that’s more to do with studios wanting a certain baseline of familiarity than an explicit desire to make enforce cultural imperialism hegemony. The global audience has at least a surface level grasp of the cultural nuances of the big urban megalopolis’ like Tokyo, LA, NYC, London, etc. Whereas they have next to no grasp on a place like Tonga or rural northern Alabama, which means more time explaining and less time entertaining. Of course, that greater understanding of major cosmopolitan centers is a side effect of capitalism.

[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kind of a "the purpose of a system is what it does" thing though isn't it

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[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

I want more games and shows about Japanese culture, but more specifically modern day salarymen in Shinjuku. Those guys rock.

If I can't play as the drunkest middle manager to ever exist, what's even the point?

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Japanese depressed alcoholic salaryman aesthetic is so much sexier than the western version.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

That's kind of what Takeshi's Challenge is

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[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

Pop culture produced absurd books about Japan taking over the US, and people literally feared it happening.

I was a weird nerd as a child (still am I guess) and read my dad's tom clancy novels. I read debt of honor in grade 4 or 5 not long after it came out. my teacher at the time would sit down with us and talk about books we read as we finished them. that's how I accidentally spoiled jack ryan becoming president to a 40 year old man when I was 11.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

!noyank@lemmy.ml has pretty good variety. It's an internationalist culture comm.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

I would love more Indian media but I don't like Bollywood and someday soon I'll run out of left-wing Bengali directors.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

Tales of Kenzera: ZAU is a metroidvania set in an African-themed world, although I don’t think it’s historically or mythologically any one specific place in Africa. Fantasy-world Africa as it were.

[–] mechwarrior2@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

I want an Ogre Battle game set in a "bronze age" based on the work of Marija Gimbutas (gynocentric protocommunists vs patriarchal marauding invaders)

[–] GiorgioBoymoder@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

people ask me, Giorgio, have you seen Shogun? you gotta see it! have you seen blue-eyed samurai, I think you'll love it! I say, please stop I am so done with Bushido yes-honey-left

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Related gripe: I simply don’t give any breakcore album with a young, anime girl on the cover a spin at this point. It’s just a red flag as usually that means mediocre and/or “atmospheric DnB at 160 BPM with minimal edits on the break beats calling itself breakcore.”

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[–] Hermes@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

I'd just like to play a game, once, that doesn't have samurai and geisha. It would be neat to learn about another culture that isn't Japan. Maybe go to another continent.

monkeys paw curls: you will now get South African pro apartheid games

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