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I live in fear that someone in my house will connect the tv to the WiFi and an update will just absolutely fuck it up.
Block the MAC on the router.
At this point just use the TV as screen for a Raspberry and be done with it. Pi hole is good but it cant catch everything, and i would expect smart tv's by now try to smuggle out data on things that can get around the pihole. Every Smart TV has to be assumed a compromised device, with advanced data exfiltration options.
They also take fingerprints of what your watching every few frames and get it out on corpo shadow mesh nets
Anybody got an in to those corpo mesh nets BTW?
Why does it feel like I fell into some Shadowrun Decker forum?!
Because it's incredibly tacky cyberpunk that is simultaneously far too serious and incapable of taking itself remotely seriously, there's latent transphobia everywhere, especially among people claiming to be magic, all the tech that does anything you actually want it to is pretty explicitly based on magic, and there is absolutely comprehensively verifiably zero hope.
(See meme downthread)
Thankfully not in Europe.
How do you know? Taken yours apart?
Several people have already tested and confirmed this and I believe them that even the big tech giants are somewhat afraid of the GDPR claws.
people have tested and confirned
That i believe. Fuck yeah; tech audits!
afraid of the gdpr
Im not as sure i believe that.
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I have a smart TV. It is connected to two things. The wall socket for power and HDMI #2 for my PC.
Edit: Also I have a PFSense router, I use PFBlockNG to also block the IPs behind the blocked DNS entries. My phone is GrapheneOS and all of my computers are GNU Linux. Any blocked incidents I get are usually from websites. If I surf the web a lot in a month, I maybe get 200 blocked incidents. If my normie friends stay over with, for example, a Windows PC and an iPhone, I get 2000 per day. It's wild what's going on with these devices.
This the way.
I've got my pc and steamdeck on my tv.
The settings menu still asks me if i want to connect for "corpo reason".
Mine ignores it and does its own DNS.
Not even connecting these devices to the Internet.
Time to do the ol' firewall redirect for port 53
Firewall redirect and masquerade.
Bitch you thought
DoH, DoT, dnscrypt, whatever else
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Block it by MAC address at the router. That's the only way to know for sure.
New TVs will connect to other smart TVs that have been connected to the Internet.
You straight up have to pull their chips now if you really want to be sure.
This is the first I've heard of such a thing. Like TVs connecting to one another through Wifi Direct or BTLE and tethering their internet connection? Can you link to anything discussing this?
Hmm, I recall reading a couple articles about it a year or so ago but nothing is coming up in searches.
I'm not sure if that means it was vaporware, misinformation, or coming soon to a Google TV near you. Anyone that's more familiar with network capabilities is free to correct me, but as far as I'm aware if your TV even has Bluetooth it's already capable of doing this at some level.
Either way you'll catch a smart appliance in my house when I'm dead.
? If you're going to block 1 Smart TV from the Internet. Why wouldn't you do it to all the TVs on your LAN?
In theory, as every smart TV might act as an access point, it'd be sufficient to be in the range of your neighbors smart TV.
Oh shit I didn't think of that.
Because the range could include things like the apartment, condo, or even house next door.
Randomized MAC addresses: Bonjour
I thought government regulation would prevent that? I thought the whole point of a Mac address was a unique id for hardware
Unique IDs are a privacy concern. Best you can tell by randomized MAC addresses is who the manufacturer of the device is and the type of device if you're lucky (like when the manufacturer's departments are internally split into separate companies), but that's not guaranteed.
I'm waiting for these smart devices to come with their own mobile modems.
And/or some weird legislation that mandates connecting them to your home network. Because you wouldn't want them to not be able to phone home with the thousands of screenshots so their AI can verify that you are not stealing copyrighted content, right???!
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Who cares? I use mine only as a (huge) screen for my laptop (soon to be replaced by a steam deck)
No idea why this is getting down voted, this is the only real option for such TVs.
Probably because you should care about the fuckton of TVs being sold and in circulation with software that is just some of the worst privacy violations bundled together in a case behind a big LCD/OLED panel. There is no option to avoid it and probably no option to install something else on the hardware you bought and therefor should be yours to do whatever you want to with it. I even read that some connect to open wifi access points without passwords to reach the internet.
Probably because you should care about the fuckton of TVs being sold and in circulation with software that is just some of the worst privacy violations bundled together in a case behind a big LCD/OLED panel.
But that's what I mean. I don't use my TV as a smart TV, it's plugged into a device where I can control the privacy settings via HDMI. No wifi, no apps being used, no connection to the outside world. That's why I don't care about DNS shenanigans with the TV, because I do them more comfortably on another device.
You not caring about the implications because you can avoid it in your own home could have come across as not helpful to the greater cause I guess.
I'm on a Crusade against people that won't tet me watch TV without being part of a Crusade.
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Buying old TV (as long as LED) or 2K resolution TV is still worth it for me because i don't like Android TV, Smart TV, or other crap and shits. For me a TV doesn't need to have that kind of features, if you want android just buy android tv box like NVIDIA Shield or Minix
Couldn't you just buy a new, awesome TV and then not hook it up to the internet?
Many newer smart TVs will literally not boot up past a certain point until you connect them to the internet to "activate" them. It's actual madness.
Can confirm. Returned as defective.
It takes ages to boot, might have integrated offline ads, draws power when on standby for features you don't want like remote controllability via network, and it'll probably nag you forever to let it online. No thanks, a display will always just be that in this household. Separate concerns please, also easier to upgrade or replace.
I set up my Samsung give it its initial update, and then blocked it from internet at my firewall. If I need it to do something I unblock it for a few minutes and then block it again when I'm done. I use streaming sticks for all my other work and they're just pie holed regularly.
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'pretend this is transparent' is sending me. Bra-fucking-vo!
I never plan on replacing my commercial display. when it breaks, i won't care. don't watch tv or movies anyways. it's all garbage
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