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Uber: EU rules will see us pull out of “hundreds” of European cities — Brussels’ proposal to classify gig workers as de facto employees could slam the breaks on operations across the bloc::An Uber boss has issued a stark warning that Brussels' proposal to classify gig workers as de facto employees could slam the breaks on operations across the bloc.

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[-] VonReposti@feddit.dk 251 points 9 months ago

"Our business model isn't sustainable unless we remove worker rights"

[-] zoe@infosec.pub 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

luckely everyone has become wary of what these tech bros startups are all about. Tech companies like this just add extra steps to a preexisting business and pride themselves of being innovative

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 10 points 9 months ago

But but but, there's an app, surely that's worth all the downsides right.

[-] Asifall@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Don’t forget consumer protections!

Uber somehow managed to convince people that it’s not their fault if their drivers don’t follow traffic laws, drive intoxicated, and assault people.

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[-] jantin@lemmy.world 114 points 9 months ago

The hubris of thinking that a random driver-exploiting app is some kind of godsend utility and we'll be scared of losing it.

At this point the old school taxi companies have their apps too, you're not the cool kid anymore, uber

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

All anyone ever wanted was an app. Uber stopped being cheapna decade ago. It's not competitive so let it die.

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[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 109 points 9 months ago

If you can't pay your workers ethically then your business doesn't deserve to exist. Simple as that.

[-] Enfors@lemm.ee 22 points 9 months ago

Yes. These people are not entitled to be business owners. If they can't hack it, then get out of the way for the people that can. But don't worry, business owners - I'm sure you'd be perfectly happy being a gig worker for another company instead, right?

[-] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 6 points 9 months ago

Tell that to the shareholders

[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 81 points 9 months ago

If your business model requires the economic exploitation of your workers, your company possesses no legitimate reason to exist.

[-] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 22 points 9 months ago

Similar to what I always say: if your company's survival relies on tax evasion, you shouldn't have a company.

[-] LordPassionFruit@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

This might not be universal, but here it doesn't even require it.

Back in 2017, Uber tried to expand to my home province and tried to get us to change our local regulations regarding rideshare (it boiled down to Uber being required to call its drivers employees and to function like the pre-existing taxi services).

Local government doesn't budge, so Uber decides that it doesn't want to come anymore. Within the year, a local alternative pops up that complies with the regulations Uber tried to fight, and they're still profitable 6 years later.

It's not that Uber isn't capable of paying their employees living wages, it's that they can earn more money if they don't.

[-] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 9 months ago

"Since 2021 in the UK, Uber drivers are considered ‘workers’, which is not full employee status but does mean they receive sick pay and annual leave.

The firm has gone further than UK competitors including Ola and Bolt in worker benefits.

The number of drivers on the UK platform has doubled in recent years."

Go fuck yourself uber.

[-] paboppa@jlai.lu 56 points 9 months ago

Honestly that's good, who cares ?

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Having just returned from Australia on vacation, I'll say it was extremely inconvenient when Uber wasn't in a region. We even managed to get stuck in a small airport because there were no regular taxis, and the local Taxi app simply didn't work for the required 2fa with a foreign phone number (though the UI for selecting country was there, no text was ever received).

Uber is great when available while traveling. Makes life so much easier.

That said, I fully support regulating them to have to support their drivers as any other employer. Fuck them and their repeated threats to their ball and go home. Force them out of every market until they concede and restructure.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 6 points 9 months ago

Um, you do realise that the only reason you couldn't get a normal taxi was because Uber's business model was to destroy the industry and take over?

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

... yes, they destroyed the taxi industry in a remote airport where they never rolled out service to. Right.

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[-] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 9 months ago

Okay, byeee!

[-] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 9 months ago
[-] wolo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 9 months ago

Good, if someone is selling their labor they should be protected as an employee.

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

I'm going to celebrate the day when they 'pull out' of hundreds of European cities.

[-] baropithecus@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago

As a European, all I can say is good riddance, you greasy fuckers.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

So people will go back to fairly-paid taxi drivers. Not seeing a problem here.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 32 points 9 months ago

Oh no! Anyway...

[-] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

EU please do what California utterly failed to do!

[-] remus989@sh.itjust.works 29 points 9 months ago
[-] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Yes. Fuck off then.

[-] Rubezahl@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

F you, Uber.

They tried to bypass taxi laws in our main city and the municipality just kicked them out. Never thought I would say it, but here am I:

Good job, government. Well done.

[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 22 points 9 months ago
[-] blackluster117@possumpat.io 21 points 9 months ago
[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 18 points 9 months ago
[-] demonsword@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

An Uber boss has issued a stark warning that Brussels’ proposal to classify gig workers as de facto employees could slam the breaks on operations across the bloc.

don't you dare threaten us with a good time

[-] espentan@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago
[-] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Oh no- anyway.

[-] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago

Well... bye.

[-] spongebue@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago
[-] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago

Good fuck em

[-] Asifall@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago
[-] zoe@infosec.pub 7 points 9 months ago

all the better

[-] t0lo@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

When will this happen?

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