A community to organize and discuss the growth of the fediverse as a whole
It's okay, if Reddit is what "has users" looks like, then I'm perfectly happy to have "no users" over here on the Fediverse.
It would still be nice to have more than one active poster on topics as general as
You're not wrong. I think we need to start de-specializing some in compensation on the Fediverse. Like maybe there's not enough content to specifically support a !television community at the scale you'd like, but maybe there's enough content if we rolled them together into !entertainment or !media.
But also, no community happens out of a vacuum. If we want a viable community here, sometimes that means putting in the work of regularly contributing posts knowing fully well they'll be ignored and receive no engagement until doing so has proven enough continual activity that people feel worthwhile investing into.
But yes, in general I agree, it would be nice if we had a little more activity around here. But I'd still rather us be on the smaller size than the too large to manage size of Reddit, given the option.
Exactly. Assholes like that can stay on Reddit and suck more spez corporate bot cock.
I think it's more just that most of the users are bots or marketing interns.
There's a sweet spot with internet forums, and the exact number varies by community, but every forum I've ever been on got shit after getting too big.
People are so stubborn that they're still using Twitter lol. It'll be many years before anything overtakes Reddit, I just hope it's decentralized
I don't need anything to overtake Reddit. We don't need one platform to rule them all. I like our small corner of the internet. I like it to grow slow and organically. And it's already decentralized.
I like it too, but it would be nice to have more than one active poster on topics as general as
no users. Lets stop pretending we can fix this by moving to yet another different platform
"We can't fix the 'no users' problem by adding more users"
I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas. Whaa.
if all the people who said this actually went on Lemmy/PieFed and started leaving comments on posts, they would have nothing left to complain about
As if complaining with no power will convince capitalists to make changes.
These people just love to complain that Reddit doesn't listen to them, but they still sit at the trough when Reddit ignores them. Why should Reddit spend good money trying to appease them if they aren't even going to threaten to leave
Like complaining about the number of people on the rafts versus the Titanic. You can stay there if you want, but you are never going to "fix" a platform that you don't control.
That's one thing I love about the Fediverse. Over on Reddit, if you belong to the 38k, you're a rounding error. Here, you're a significant part of the community.
38k is more than enough activity for a plateform to be lively. Especially when those user are spread across the world, allow for content at every hour.
Their loss, Lemmy is great. Everyone's been pretty good so far, even when I'm being the annoying-preachy anarchist in a lib/nonpolitical instance. That and Sync for Lemmy have made it a pretty pleasant experience.
I'm astonished that reddit it still going after all the decent users left en masse a few years ago.
Insert rant against dichotomies: this stinks "it's either as big as Reddit or empty" from a distance.
My best experience with forums was one where we celebrated the day we got 300 users at the same time. It still felt vibrant, active, nice to be there. In comparison with that forum, 38 000 monthly active users is huge.
Plus those muppets behave like they really want to wallow in their own misery.
My best experience with forums was one where we celebrated the day we got 300 users at the same time. It still felt vibrant, active, nice to be there.
Indeed, even with 20 active people you can already have a vibrant community.
More real users than Reddit
Especially when each Lemmy user is valued at 342 times the worth of a Reddit user.
How dare you insult all lemmings with that low estimate haha
Being able to complain about something incessantly is a feature for these people, they don't want it fixed (not that they'd ever admit it).
But moving would literally solve the number problem. That's how Reddit got big.
Personal experience: the smaller group is, the more friendly and stick-together group will be.
Reddit had bots for a fucking long time. And since they allowed to close up user profiles post/comment history, tracking who is who became harder. There is no way that wasn't by design, it most certainly is. There is no secret that reddit is in cahoots with LLM companies. They will use (or already are using) bots to populate their site and probably will skew public perception in a desired way using bots.
Not like Lemmy has no bots. But it's so much more peaceful here.
I wouldn't mind seeing Lemmy grow further, but I hope it never reaches the levels of current day Reddit.
I don't want to see a single server grow to the size of Reddit. I wouldn't mind the network as a whole growing to that size, though.
I suspect that if the lemmy side of the fediverse did grow to the size of Reddit we would probably see a lot more fragmentation than we currently have.There'd be upsides and downsides to that.
I'd rather take 38k active monthly users than the maybe 20 non-bots and 3 billion bots on their landfill they call a garden.
No users. Let's not fix this by not moving there. 🤯
Also commercial platforms try to maximize their user count so they can sell more ads.
Meanwhile, fediverse has little interest in increasing its user numbers, because we don't generate money from it. In fact, more users would probably mean (slightly) higher infrastructure costs, though i'm not sure how much they actually are or whether one could consider them "negligible".
Anyways, if we had more users, we'd also have more diverse content on Lemmy, and i would definitely appreciate that. Honestly, it's a bit sad that 50% of the posts on the frontpage are about US politics, but i guess it's just a topic that gets a lot of traction because it affects a lot of people and also because there's not so much other content on the platform yet. I hope we'll get more communities about somebody's fringe favorite topics. :D
-sigh-
Create an instance that’s nothing but tons of bots bullshitting eachother and include them in the numbers. You know, the ways all the other companies lie about their user count.
FOMO is a weird thing. Sometimes I get in moods where it's like, I don't want to watch a movie from 10 years ago, it's not relevant and no one is interested in it anymore. Or music, or whatever. We're actually hardwired to go along with the crowd, to want to be part of the bigger crowd, etc. So cheers to all you who chose this less-trodden path, or just got banned enough times on Reddit to take the hint 🍻
Centralised platforms trying to be all things to all users are a terrible idea.
their loss...
Just proving they have nothing worth posting
