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The glory days of Epic Games are long gone and Tim Sweeney is a god damn moron.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 265 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Valve revolutionized Linux gaming; Tim categorically rejects it.
Valve banned shitcoins and blockchain scams; Tim welcomed them with open arms.
Valve enforces honesty regarding AI slop; Tim wants to literally deceive people.
All that on top of what they did with third-party exclusives.

He's like that annoying kid who didn't get invited to a birthday party and vowed to always do the opposite of what the popular kid does. Petulant fucking overgrown child.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Valve banned shitcoins and blockchain scams

would've been nice if they banned gambling, too, but that's part of their business model unfortunately.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I hear people say this sometimes, but I don't know what they mean. Is there part of Valve's system that has a gambling mechanic I've just never engaged with?

Or is it one of their games that has gambling?

Because I've been using it for years as basically my sole gaming interface and haven't seen any gambling.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The short version is that an enormous, multibillion dollar gambling industry has been built around Valve's item marketplace, and in particular around CS:GO skins. If that sounds completely insane and stupid, I'm with you, but it exists. Valve takes their typical cut off of all of these trades, and thus derives massive profits from it.

Here's the long version: https://peertube.gravitywell.xyz/videos/watch/a8e6d20c-3003-4b14-b9c4-cb6a25b238e7?isPeertubeContent=1

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[–] technohacker@programming.dev 16 points 1 month ago

Mainly Team Fortress 2 and Counter Strike GO/2, cuz both of them have cosmetics with rarities obtained via what effectively amounts to lootboxes. In one sense they also have an out-of-game economy around these things where these items are traded for actual money

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[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 137 points 1 month ago (2 children)

definitely keep doing it then. Sweeney is consistently on the wrong side.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Bingo! Valve is one hell of a monopoly, but they don't totally fuck their customers. Sweeney has to answer to his shareholders. Those are the real customers; not you and me.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sweeney has to answer to his shareholders.

which is like 40% tencent.

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[–] pumpkin_spice@lemmy.today 89 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't want AI-generated assets in games at the expense of past, present, and future artists -- artists that created all the source material in the first place and had it pirated by corporations who had enough money to ignore all existing IP law globally.

If Tim Sweeney is fine with pirating other's art, he should be cool with people pirating his games.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Yeah this is my take as well. AI can be a useful tool but putting people out of work so you can save money to create soulless art is just wrong.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 89 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of course epic doesn't understand empowering consumers with information. They don't care about consumers. If they did, they'd maybe try adding some long requested features to their storefront.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sweeney's customers are the shareholders. Not the gamers.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

And that's why he'll fail.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 72 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Beyond just Tim Sweeney sounding dumb, there's something truly evil and malicious about this framing.

His response was to a tweet that said: Steam and all digital marketplaces need to drop the "Made with AI" label. It doesn't matter anymore. (Emphasis mine)

All well and good for that guy maybe, but why do they need to drop it and why does Tim Sweeney agree? Why is less information for the people that want to have it a necessity. And WHY does he feel compelled to comment on the behavior of his competitors in this way.

Fucking ghouls, the whole lot of them. I hope their AI creations destroy them and they suffer even a single moment of hubris.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (8 children)

People that are wrong this often and have the amount of power a CEO can exert over their company never ever realize they are wrong.

Because of this, they never experienced hubris or any kind of personal growth for that matter as long as it's coming from this dumbfuck endstage capitalistic nightmare pipeline.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago

Tum Sweeney: "Please stop labeling all these turds, because everything will be made with shit at some point"

[–] Xotic56 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Shit like this is why people only use that storefront for the free games. Completely out of touch.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds like Epic needs to try to make a online game store to compete with Steam, but filled with AI slopware.

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[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Epic Games had glory days?

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Unreal Tournament 2004 was a spectacular arena shooter back in the day before Battle Royale and MOBAs completely took over. Aged like fine wine too.

Yeah, I'm old.

[–] Malix@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 month ago (10 children)

ut99 > 2k4! But it is a close call, admittedly.

But also, epic released some absolute bangers in the 90's, though admittedly as a publisher. eg. Castle of the Winds, One Must Fall 2097.

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Epic Megagames certainly did.

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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

Some of us want quality over mass produced crap stolen from others.

[–] mohab@piefed.social 36 points 1 month ago

This is like Jared Leto giving Daniel Day-Lewis acting advice 😂

Go back in your hole, Tim.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like how he's basically admitting that it's a negative that would hurt the game sales. Because consumers don't want it.

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[–] muhyb@programming.dev 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His expectations are just Unreal.

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[–] Strider@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I think I just understood why UE5 sucks that much...

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[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 month ago

Worry about your own fucking storefront. There's a lot of worrying that needs to be done.

[–] myedition8@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How does this even make any sense? This guy is an idiot lol.

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[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If the developer puts shampoo in the game box, I'd probably want to know that before opening it.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This sounds like "If we let men marry men, what's next? Men marrying goats?"

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[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sweeney has Steam living rent free in his head. Whining about Monopoly

Meanwhile, Epic Games already has something resembling a monopoly with the unreal engine, its buggy and resource hungry as fuck, and just seems to be getting worse. Necessitating an arms race of computer upgrades just to run the newest games on their obtuse engine thats being used for everything now. Epic certainly isnt doing anything about it. Its just a money printer for Tim's legal battles.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Bullshit translator: "I want to sell more AI made games, so i can reduce costs by firing everyone, and being held accountable for using AI is gonna prevent me from bilking idiots to increase my fortunes by another billion or 5"

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 25 points 4 weeks ago

"Waaaahhhh! Waaaaahhhh! Why is Steam such a good service? That should be illegal! Tell them they should be worse!"

That's all I'm hearing from these other corpos.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 month ago

Anyway, here's a userscript/browser addon to make Steam's AI warnings into a popup: https://github.com/seeeeew/aiwarningforsteam

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 month ago

Epic Boss Tim Sweeney can go fuck himself

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

He doesn't sound very epic to me.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 18 points 1 month ago

If Sweeney can read this, I just want to tell him something. As someone who made games with ZZT as a kid and thought it was the best thing ever, you need to understand that no AI could make something like that, even if as a kid using copied and 'inspired' code from other games (and learned how to hexedit out the protections from other ZZT worlds so I can see how they worked) the cycle of just working through a rudimentary coding language was the reward in and of it self even if I never did finish the game I had in mind.

BTW, that game just involved an adventurer in a kingdom that is being troubled by... Hitler's ghost, and your objective was to send his ass back to hell. I found a boss fight in another ZZT world that I thought was too cool not to reuse for that purpose, too. But sadly it was never finished.

That being said, we DO need 'AI generated' or 'AI assisted' as a tag. There isn't anything weird or wrong with that. In online art spaces like deviant art you can tag stuff as 'traditional' art (meaning done on paper/canvas with whatever media you used, like pencils, various paints, etc) or digital or a combination thereof, like a hand drawn sketch that was completed and colored with photoshop. Why the fuck would anyone be against telling people what tools were used?

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nothing epic about the guy or his company.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago
[–] peetabix@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Funny he thinks that, I think that Tim Sweeny should stfu.

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 month ago

If that actually happens and the label becomes redundant, then we can talk about removing it.

Or better, inverting it to a "No AI" label for the people like me who will still care.

Tech bros always act like this : they don't want to actually win by making a good solution. Instead they try to make you feel like their solution is inevitable and they have already won...

For a group of people who claim to be all about meritocracy and the "marketplace of ideas", they sure like to short circuit those whenever possible...

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 14 points 1 month ago

Epic is on track to becoming a google play store

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I don't know how long it's been since I even bothered claiming the free game of the week. Like a year.

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