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Librarians in public schools in Charlotte County, Florida, were instructed by the school district superintendent to remove all books with LGBTQ characters or themes from school and classroom libraries. The guidance by Charlotte County Superintendent Mark Vianello and the school board's attorney, Michael McKinley, was obtained by the Florida Freedom to Read Project (FFTRP) through a public records request and shared with Popular Information. FFTRP requested "electronic records of district and school decisions regarding classroom and library materials." In response, FFTRP received a document memorializing a July 24 conversation between Vianello and district librarians, known in Florida as media specialists.

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[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don’t forget to throw out the Bible!

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

Uh oh! Ham and woke Noah better not be in any elementary schools teaching kids about drunk gay incestuous nudity.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Genesis 19:

4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

There’s a whole town of gays in this book!

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Please support Foundation 451 and consider donating. It is a Florida teacher-led organization that has already provided thousands of banned books to Florida students and is opening up banned book libraries all over the state.

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fascism. In 1935 the nazis were burning books. Nowadays they banish them from the public. Same ideology. Fascism always stays the same

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

The Nazis started with books about "sexual deviance", specifically they started with the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft. That's where that one famous picture of them comes from.

They started with gay and trans people, same as here.

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

"They don't gotta burn the books they just remove 'em."

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago

The fact that they are not taking out books with heterosexual characters as well shows this is only about bigotry.

[–] RubberStuntBaby@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago

Republicans are afraid that LGBTQ characters will humanize LGBTQ people and children might learn to empathize with them, which would reduce bigotry against them.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

This is about homophobia not being appropriate or not.

[–] Nipplecreek@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Damn. Republicans really are fascist. As if we didn't know already but God damn.

[–] protovack@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"theocrats" would be more specific. fascist is a more generic term.

Theocracy can in theory be democratic and progressive, thus the term "Christofascism" to denote the xenophobic and oppressive nature.

[–] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Jesus told me to love my brother 👀

[–] nybble41@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Allegories aside, the Bible definitely has a few LGBTQ characters, even if they're not portrayed in a very positive light. I suppose that means they'll be banning the Bible from school libraries? Not to mention a fair amount of historical literature… including anything featuring Leonardo da Vinci, Florence Nightingale, King James (yes, that King James), William Shakespeare, King Richard I, or Julius Caesar.

It will be interesting to see whether this makes the history classes easier, for lack of material to cover, or harder, for lack of references.

[–] VintageTech@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Isn't Joseph's pronoun in Hebrew she/her? Hence the perfume cart and the shocking response from pharoahs wife once "he" was naked?

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

And my step brother 👀

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'd take out all the books that have any characters that don't mention their sexuality and say that I'm protecting kids because Huck Finn could be gay.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Any character that isn't actively pursuing someone of the opposite gender is clearly asexual. There is absolutely no other possibility.

[–] grysbok 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even those in heterosexual relationships could be bi.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

What if they're in a relationship but a little bit or sometimes sad about it? Could be around/ace/gay!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Huck did have quite the close relationship with Jim. Just sayin'.

[–] Travalanche@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Oh, I'm sure they'll be banning Mark Twain soon enough.

[–] BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

They'd probably be fine with that. Honestly, they probably wish they could just shut the whole place down; you'd be doing them a favor.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imagine being that afraid of who other people love. The world has never seen such cowardice.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

They're just afraid of love in general. All fascists are. LGBT people just get it worse and (since they're minorities and thus easy to target) first.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

Florida has really turned into crap over the past few years. Politically, it wasn't great to begin with, but it has certainly gone south for a while now.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So what happens to the books that get removed?

Trash? Donated to public libraries?

[–] NXTR@artemis.camp 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Something something Celsius 232.8

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wait, was the book title actually localized to Celsius when it was exported? In America the original book is titled Fahrenheit 451, which honestly rolls off the tongue fairly well.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I think they said it the way they did to make it clear they were talking about the library books burning, rather than referring to the book with that title

[–] Ulv@feddit.nu 1 points 2 years ago

No too my knowledge the titwl was never localised in any way besides too accomadate other languages ways of writing fahrenheit

[–] Arotrios@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Fuck censorship - posted for the kids of Charlotte County.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] coffeeaddict@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

It's a school board which afaik had nothing to do with DeSantis. Well, maybe DeSantis pushed passed the kind of less that authorized school boards play around like this.

But this is more of a direct result of residents of the county voting this kind of people for school board (or... only a specific group attending the ballot and others sleeping) and the people elected by the citizens in that county doing banning things like that.

I think US could be a much better place if simply everyone went to ballot

[–] potpotato@artemis.camp 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

"But the gays are yucky and the founding fathers obviously meant no Constitution for yucky people" /s

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's alright people, we can pretend that portion of the population just simply doesn't exist and all will go back as it was in 1950.

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[–] Elric@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Wow purging lgbtq books in Florida while Ontario is purging any book written before 2008... can we all please stop purging books it never ends well!

[–] Kandorr@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is the goal to create places so inhospitable to open minds, that those who possess a shred of empathy flee, creating a conservative gravity well of votes? Is that even sustainable

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