That's not far left IMO, that's just left. This is a recurring problem we have in France too, where medias call "far left" parties that are just left. This is a slippery slope, the one on which Overton window slips towards the (far) right...
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Far left is: "We're going to destroy the very concept of private ownership and wealth accumulation"
"... to meet everyone's basic needs"
"..."
"To meet everyone's basic needs, right?"
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The way I see it, between left and far left the direction is roughly the same, that's the means and end point that differ (i.e. revolution or not and how far we go into sharing resources). This is an important difference and they should thus not be mixed.
Also needs to be a clear distinction between democratic left and authoritarian left.
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Centralists
Don’t ban abortion but support families with children more If you really want less abortion and more children..
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You vote left because you want the best for the general good of society, you vote right because you want what's best for yourself, in particular.
The sad thing is, that's not even true.
Most poor world be better off under left wing ideals, yet they vote right wing anyway because they're scared that brown people will steal their crumbs.
(But actually that guy in the middle doesn't just have this plate full of cookies. He owns a huge vessel full of cookies)
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But rich white men stealing their crumbs is fine because they aren't brown
Better than Jose over there, a hard working fine gentleman, getting his needs met
The funny bit is that sometimes José too is a conservative, which is how you see plenty of immigrants doing the whole "pull the ladder up once you're in" and voting rightwing.
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Plenty of people also vote right based on hate and fear. They'll vote against there own best interests because of hate and fear.
They vote right because cable news told them it's best for themselves. It's not.
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It's because we lefties say completely justified mean things about so-called 'centrists', and criticizing the literal record of centrism is tantamount to insulting a centrist's identity.
The centrists made up the term so they wouldn't have to face the fact that they're conservatives.
That's right, the centrists are conservatives and the so-called "conservatives" are really regressives at best, plenty of them fascists.
We don't just call everyone we don't like fascists. But uh, them folks are fascists.
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From Disco Elysium:
They’re just people who are too weak and dumb to have real opinions and they just want to be in the in crowd
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Can we be better than twitter with these bullshit fallacy arguments.
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A Tweet by "Vivian" @suchnerve:
far left: we're gonna get everyone's basic needs met
far right: we're gonna exterminate entire social groups because they're impure
centrists: i literally cannot tell you two apart
Your “far-left” is the centric, your “centric” are fascist accepting far-right, and your “far-right” is right extreme fascists…
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Even the left normalized the false narrative of “far left”. America does not have any “far left” party
Fishhook theory > horseshoe theory
I mean to be fair... groups that consider themselves far left also exterminate groups.
The trick is to not go too far. You wanna end up at Scandinavian liberal socialism, but not overshoot it to let's create a famine for kicks and kill all people wearing glasses.
consider themselves
Is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that statement.
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I mean to be fair... groups that consider themselves far left also exterminate groups
[Citation needed]
The trick is to not go too far
Yeah, you wouldn't want society to become TOO egalitarian and fair! 🙄
You wanna end up at Scandinavian liberal socialism
Speaking as an actual Scandinavian leftie: nope. Not good enough.
Social Democratic Liberalism (which is what it actually is. Socialism is a very different thing) is still capitalist and thus exploitative at its core.
It's better than most, but it's far from the utopian ideal that people from the American Left tend to think it is.
but not overshoot it to let's create a famine for kicks and kill all people wearing glasses
You're thinking along the wrong axis there. There's a HUGE difference between ultra authoritarian leftism like that of the USSR and Pol Pot's Cambodia, and libertarian (original meaning, not bastardized American definition) leftism.
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So anything thats acturally left wing is bad? Because left wing means genuene real socialism, as in not capitalism socialism. As in the type of socialism that doesn't require oppressing the global south (which shouldn't even be a question).
LIBERALISM = REACTIONARY
SOCIALISM = REVOLUTIONARY
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Too bad the left has never had power in the US
Neoliberals don't want or allow things to improve
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