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This is what putting people in a pressure cooker of $8/hr minimum wage, state violence and $1500/mo rents yields.

Also, whatever you think of this action (I happen to be against it because it's illegal.), acknowledge that mobilizing this many people is the result of invisible forms of organizing, not neccesarily legible to the "left" whose traditions cross-polinate with the professionalized activism of ngos, labor unions and political parties.

It's just a shame that it was expressed this way. We need major social democratic reforms and avenues for disenfranchised people to exercise political power so these kinds of desperate actions don't disrupt our lives.

The provocative title is a way to call attention to the ways that overseas reporting and domestic reporting on social conflict differ. A detournament of imperialist propaganda if you will.

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[–] newmou@hexbear.net 105 points 1 year ago (5 children)

“I happen to be against it because it’s illegal” do we a Letter from Birmingham Jail sticker for this lib

[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Would you post something advocating criminal activity on a public forum? I sure wouldn't, because I'm a staunch defender of law and order.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past that point.

[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (11 children)

we literally have a comm for digital piracy and I could have sworn we had one for shoplifting advice, but apparently not?

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

please link to the shoplifting comm so i can report it to the proper authorities

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[–] D61@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All slave owners deserve to die. john-brown

[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

John Brown didn't go far enough

[–] ComradeCmdrPiggy@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

John Brown shouldn't have stopped at Harper's Ferry

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[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 86 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I happen to be against it because it's illegal

bruh-moment

Death to America

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm for it because its illegal. Who cares about laws like that in an unjust society?

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[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Why yes I do derive all my morals from legality and also have a brain the size of a pea"

Some people really never got into the abstract thought stage of development and it shows

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

the reddit comments "why are they robbing lulu lemon, liqueur stores, and apple stores. you cant get good resale value out of that stupid criminals"

its almost like they recognized that these businesses offer negative value to their communities so thats why they are targeted. dumb fucking liberals. i know i know going on reddit is self harm, i wont do it again.

[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Reddit: rebellion is bad, but also I could do it better

[–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Going on Reddit? I sentence you to at least an hour of self care and contemplation

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago
[–] Rom@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can absolutely get good resale value from iPads/iPhones, they don't know what they're talking about.

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Uncritical support, death to Amerikkka, death to foot locker.

[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Furthermore, Lululemon must be destroyed.

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[–] neroiscariot@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really weird that most, of not all, advancements of the welfare of the proletariat in America came about through violence and not peaceful protest.

I just think it's neat.

[–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The bourgeoisie understand one language and one language only

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just a shame that it was expressed this way. We need major social democratic reforms and avenues for disenfranchised people to exercise political power so these kinds of desperate actions don't disrupt our lives

I-was-saying i think we need actions that disrupt our lives. Specifically the lives of the oppressor class. Direct action gets the goods

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have wanted nothing more my entire life than for it to be disrupted. Can't actually seem to change anything for shit

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

100-com "normal" life is what's killing us. I want it disrupted as much as possible

[–] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

I want us all to reflect just a minute,

On all that it took just to get one convicted.

We voted, we won, but we still lost the Senate.

Turns out it don't matter who we got elected.

We rallied, retweeted. We let it get heated.

We called out this country and the whole world had heeded.

No matter how filthy nor hilly or chilly,

Millions had marched in hundreds of cities,

Just to find a single U.S. cop guilty

Of a murder we all watched on Instagram.

-Faith Santilla, For Bella & Robert, Diana, Cassandra

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (6 children)

mobilizing this many people is the result of invisible forms of organizing, not neccesarily legible to the "left" whose traditions cross-polinate with the professionalized activism of ngos, labor unions and political parties.

Encrypted text messaging programs are pretty cool. I'm kind of in aww at how quickly theses

"I saw a bunch of people like go into the Lululemon, clothes everywhere,"

Oh, the humanity!

A total of 52 arrests have been made so far, police said Wednesday. Of those, 49 are adults and three are juveniles.

Shit. : (

Copping whatever charges they're going to throw at all these people over some yoga pants and iPhones sucks. : (

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Shit like this is red meat for the libs and chuds that think crime is on the rise and that cities are warzones.

[–] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (6 children)

True, but if we were all on our best behavior they'd still lie and say we're razing cities. They'll integrate real events into their worldview if they fit well enough, but they don't actually need anything real

[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nailed it. Damned if we do, damned if we don't; so hit 'em in the wallets cause it's the only language they understand

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[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, absolutely, it's why this shit gets coverage and not things like wage theft or union busting most of the time.

That said, bad optics aren't going to stop the working class from self organizing.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

They believe that no matter what happens. Remember that one shoplifting incident that had hundreds of articlesa about it a few years back?>

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[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

8$/HR in 2023? what the fuck? how can you even live?

[–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You live off of welfare and hope you don’t make too much for it to be taken away. Shit’s fucked.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You can't really live off of welfare. It barely exists anymore after every admin since Reagan has been parting it out. I suspect there's a lot of mutual aid going on to keep people from starving.

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[–] sammer510@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

I happen to be against it because it's illegal

There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (8 children)

acknowledge that mobilizing this many people is the result of invisible forms of organizing

This is unfalsifiable even in the best possible light. I think there's a strong possibility this is more spontaneous than organized, and more opportunistic than political.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeaaa flash mob lootings are started mostly from mass sending Snaps or even Insta/Snap stories and people just show up

The only political group I can see organizing this are anarchists but I doubt it since they'll show up in black bloc for anything, especially if they were gonna loot

OP is definitely right that the anger being spent on this is a waste though instead of being herded and organized by communists

[–] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

It’s not a waste. It’s directly fighting back and putting pressure on the powerful to demand the city stop killing people so their businesses don’t get looted anymore.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Getting people accustomed to going into the cool zone as a community is also a plus

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[–] charly4994@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

In college like a decade ago I was spending like 1200/mo in a studio apartment in Philadelphia that was smaller than the bedroom I'm currently sitting in. There was hardly any maintenance done on the place, there were giant roaches, my shower was broken for like 3 months where you couldn't actually turn the water on in it basically forcing me to live elsewhere. That's what you got in a semi-decent part of the city but not ritzy part. Can't imagine it's any better with rents skyrocketing with wages not budging.

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

We need major social democratic reforms and avenues for disenfranchised people to exercise political power so these kinds of desperate actions don't disrupt our lives.

cute

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol why are people upvoting this

[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

Folks are reading the title/article and not the commentary

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