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[–] korendian@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What a terrible thing to pay someone who really needs the money to do a fairly low effort task for you. Saying this as someone who has done plenty of delivery driving myself, this is a pretty stupid meme.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Seriously.

I advocate against using Doordash because it is overly expensive and that money is better spent paying down debt. But claiming it's bad to pay someone to do a job for you? The fuck?

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah like why do you assume that “lower class” minorities are doing this work?

As a former white delivery driver fuck you op lol

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 day ago

I don't mind the worker. It's the exploitative employer I take issue with.

[–] TerranFenrir@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago
  • Nothing wrong with a service existing.
  • Racist to assume that only people belonging to a certain race use these apps.
  • The apps are exploitative, sure. Advocate for better labor regulations here.

This is the equivalent of saying "don't wanna make your own coffee? Go to Tim Hortons to be served by lower class Indians". Same message, but with the racism highlighted.

I have mobility issues, and neurological ones as well. It was a mistake for me to use DoorDash because it's convenient and for someone who suffers from being a shut in an expensive but perfect tool. I'd like food delivery though that wasn't explotive.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago
[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

Outrage successfully manufactured!

(It’s far more racist to assume only minorities work for Door Dash than it is to imply whatever the fuck this shit tier meme is trying to say)

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It’s far more racist to assume only minorities work for Door Dash

Yeah agreed. Racial profiling is still racial profiling, using euphemisms like "lower class" and "minority" instead of the usual slurs doesn't make it okay.

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

This meme is the exact way outside influences have sabotaged all of our social messaging and desires for a better future.

A lot of people who think they're progressive are going to latch onto this idea and start saying dumb shit like "Doordash is racist" and they will get scorn and eye-rolling from literally everyone else, ruining the actual thing we should be recognizing, which is the wealth inequality that pushes people to deliver other people's food using their own car and without healthcare or benefits.

Doordash's problems have nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the wealthy pinching off our lives at every possible avenue.

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[–] nostrauxendar@lemmy.world 155 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

While I think these apps are exploitative on both sides (exploiting laziness/convenience and exploiting workers), I think implying that people who use delivery services are racist, classist, or both, is a very "internet" thing to do.

Perhaps it would be healthy if OP went outside for Christmas. A little walk in the real world, as opposed to Lemmy or Twitter or Bluesky, might help rebalance things.

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Consider folks with disabilities or those who don't own cars. I really don't see the problem of a delivery service like DoorDash or UberEats that would pay its workers a living wage.

The reason those are unethical is that they don't treat their workers as employees, and don't pay enough. If someone started a generic-delivery service that used employed workers that are paid a living/thriving wage, didn't request tips, had set fees, had customer service reps, and maybe had workers wear cams while on the shift as a security measure... would that not be worth supporting?

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[–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

They can cook my food all day, but only racists have it delivered 😡😡

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 178 points 2 days ago (42 children)

Walk 10 mins...? What bull shit magic fantasy land do you hail form that ANYTHING is a 10 min walk away. The nearest fast food to me would be like just shy of a 2 hour walk at an avg pace.

For most people getting anywhere is like 8-12 miles here in America if not further.

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 106 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Pretty much every country except for the USA seems to be a bull shit magic fantasy land. At least when living in any kind of larger city.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 54 points 2 days ago

The US is doing very badly. Growing up it was a 3 mile walk to the nearest gas station let alone anywhere that served food.

Usually was unsafe to walk that since there were no sidewalks and I'd be charged by at least 3 dogs in the way.

One time I tried to start exercising and decided to walk down my road. I had a cop circle me for 20 minutes, and 3 people offered me a ride which was nice but they were so confused that I was just walking

[–] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 2 days ago

As an European, this is bullshit. 10 minutes walking (5km/h) is 830m, living at 415m in walking distance (not air) from a restaurant is statistically unlikely for anyone not living in a city center. Let alone actually having more than one choice.

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Hi, yes, that's a very USian issue. We here don't believe in the separation of residential and commercial areas.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 29 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Two semi disabled folks here, the services are a godsend but I always tip. People don't tip here, our last rider said we were the first tip in 3 days. :(

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 61 points 2 days ago (4 children)

"Make"? Are they not being paid?

I don't use them myself but if someone wants to pay someone else to go pick up food for them who gives a shit?

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[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

If the middle man app wasn't so exploitative, I don't see what the issue is.

We've had delivery as a middle class job for decades with milkmen and paperboys, the issue is that those jobs aren't paying living wages anymore.

[–] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Okay, that's just plain ol', made up non-sense. No one in the USA walks

Duh

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[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

what would marx do?

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Who ask for delivery from a store that's 10 minutes walking?

More like one hour walking, any food would be long cold before I come home. And I don't own a car. The delivery comes usually by motorcycle in something like 5 minutes in an specialized bag that keeps warm.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 days ago

Who ask for delivery from a store that's 10 minutes walking?

Me when I am way too sick to cook let alone move

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[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

Well look at Mr(s) Fancy Pants living somewhere walkable!

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

But I am le tired

[–] ozymandias@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 days ago (3 children)

white poor people work door dash all the time….
btw, MLK Jr started the poor people’s campaign shortly before he was assassinated:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_People's_Campaign

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And send a billionaire a third of your dinner money while you're at it!

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[–] TeamTeddy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One time I ordered lunch fron Doordash and it never came, I checked the food tracker and it was somehow in AUSTRALIA.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TeamTeddy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I mean no shit, the food didn't REALLY end up in Australia. Burger King would've had to SEVERELY mess up for it to end up 9,496 miles away from my house.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Cute you still think they’re a lower class than you.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 2 days ago

We prefer the term "hard-working individual entrepreneur" - those apps, probably

[–] rauls5@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Self righteous internet person:

“You should not be able to voluntarily work for some extra income because I find it distasteful.”

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yes instead of assigning blame where it belongs (who keeps wages so low necessitating the gig economy?), they decided to blame the consumer.

People that are stuck being reliant on gig jobs like doordash would be rather unhappy and become rapidly poorer if people decided to stop using these apps. But that's what always happens. If buisness collapses the worker suffers and the CEO walks away rich.

OP really decided to make a class issue all about race

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[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 days ago

I wish that jobs like this were higher paid.

I'm disabled, and thus sometimes when I order food in this way, it's because it's literally the only way for me to access food. That means that in a sense, delivery workers are important components of the complex network of social care infrastructure, and that makes me all the more angry at how exploited these workers are.

I tip generously when I'm able to, but often that's not something I can afford. There's not very much that an individual can do to improve the working conditions for exploited workers, and that's true regardless of whether the person ordering the food is disabled or has some other need for delivery or someone who is just doing it for the convenience. It is possible for people to be able to order food for delivery at relatively affordable prices, and for the delivery workers to be sufficiently compensated for their labour, but that will require political change to counter the systems of oppression. Systemic problems can't be solved through individual action

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