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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (17 children)

“That’s when I got angry,” she said during a disciplinary hearing, per the AP. The teenager admitted to attacking the student suspected of creating the AI photos and encouraging others to join her. As a result of her actions, the district sent her to an alternative school for 10 weeks.

According to a release from the Lafourche Parish Sheriff’s Office, a male student is now facing 10 counts of unlawful dissemination of images created by artificial intelligence, and more charges could come.

She was suspended by the school for fighting. The boy was charged by the Sheriff's office for crimes on AI nudes. The title is misleading to the point of misinformation.

Edit to add: I think there's a lot of people missing the order of events here. When she was suspended they obviously knew about the fight. But at that moment the AI nudes were an accusation and there was no proof at that time. So they suspend the girl for the fight and give the investigation of AI nudes to the sheriff's office because phone unlocking needs a warrant. The boy is later charged.

[–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago (11 children)

That's "zero tolerance" for you. I remember getting in trouble for fighting back against a bully while they didn't get in trouble (or in as much trouble).

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Misleading but not inaccurate. The girl was the victim of sexual harassment boarding on sexual assault and the school chose to do nothing. It was only AFTER she escalated the situation that anyone in a position of authority took notice.

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 93 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (103 children)

ITT: We victim blame.

The principal, Danielle Coriell, said an investigation came up cold that day as no student took responsibility. The deputy assigned to the school searched social media for the images unsuccessfully, according to a recording of the disciplinary hearing.

“I was led to believe that this was just hearsay and rumors,” the girl’s father said, recounting a conversation he had that morning with the school counselor.

But the girl was miserable, and a police incident report showed more girls were reporting that they were victims, too. The 13-year-old returned to the counselor in the afternoon, asking to call her father. She said she was refused.

When the girl stepped onto the bus 15 minutes later, the boy was showing the AI-generated images to a friend. Fake nude images of her friends were visible on the boy’s phone, the girl said, a claim backed up by a photo taken on the bus. A video from the school bus showed at least a half-dozen students circulating the images, said Martin, the superintendent, at a school board meeting.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (8 children)

We live in a rape culture. I know because almost every woman I know has experienced it and we are punished for standing up to it.

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[–] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It was likely due to the publicity of the case, but nonetheless the police did their job in this one.

“According to a release from the Lafourche Parish Sheriff’s Office, a male student is now facing 10 counts of unlawful dissemination of images created by artificial intelligence, and more charges could come.”

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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 6 days ago (18 children)

Can we just criminalise possession of photos, art, or AI art depicting children in sexual situations and teach kids that this is unacceptable behaviour?

At the very least, the boy who made the images should be made to register as a sex offender, and everyone who had the images (whether they shared them or not) should have their phones confiscated and either destroyed, or wiped and given to charity. Preferably to a battered women's shelter. They should all stand as an example to their peers to teach the school that possessing sexual images of minors (even faked by AI) is not acceptable and they will lose their phones. Any parent who tries to retaliate should be referred to the police — with proof of what their kid(s) had on their phone. So either "take the lesson and walk away, or face potential CSAM-related charges." I think most parents would opt for the former.

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In Switzerland, where I'm from, possession of such material is both criminalised and you're also taught in school that you need to immediately call the police and delete the photos if you receive them and don't want major trouble. It seems to me like it's working pretty well, as I only ever see news of underage people being sexualised in the USA, even though I try to avoid negative news from there as much as possible.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

They expected the victim to endure what they personally would not. Pretty typical for lousyana.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Ah, so the US is going all-in on accepting child porn? Okay....

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[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 29 points 6 days ago (20 children)

Let's take a moment to realize that 95% of you hadn't heard of cafe mom as an outlet until just now. And that the article's headline is misleading/tabloidy at best. And while the rest seems well researched, it's clearly misleading a bit. If you start beating a kid on the bus and ask others to join in, it's not a surprise that you get suspended. Yes, she's also the victim of terrible bullying and felt let down by the faculty (who - understandably - may need more than hearsay before they start taking action). You can still not beat people up. Nobody doesn't understand that she did it. And indeed even the police looks at all of this as mitigating circumstances. And she's back in school and on probation and that's hopefully what they do with all kids who start fistfights. The buried headline is that the other kid is under police investigation, which has the potential not only to get him suspended after all but will have even more serious consequences. From what I read here, the system works as well as it can but the story is written to cause outrage.

I understand that victims of bullying like this or sexual assault in general face an uphill battle they never wanted to fight. And with the details in this story I can totally understand why the girl snapped. And I wish her nothing but the best and appropriate punishment for the kids who circulated the images. And still, you can't resort to violence and expect not to be punished for it. We are not talking about self defense here.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 66 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (13 children)

Let's take a moment to realize that 95% of you hadn't heard of cafe mom as an outlet

Cafemom linked to the AP article they shortened.

you can't resort to violence and expect not to be punished for it.

No one is saying that. But you should stop looking for a perfect victim and look at how many adults failed her. The actual issue is she already gone to guidance counselor, principals and school sheriff looking for help but nothing happened. Even at her young age, she is learning that women are not believed while being sexually harassed. She already attempted to deal with the problem "the right way".

The girls begged for help, first from a school guidance counselor and then from a sheriff’s deputy assigned to their school. But the images were shared on Snapchat, an app that deletes messages seconds after they’re viewed, and the adults couldn’t find them. The principal had doubts they even existed.

With the mocking unrelenting, the girl texted her sister, “It’s not getting handled.” As the school day wound down, the principal was skeptical. At the disciplinary hearing, the girl’s attorney asked why the sheriff’s deputy didn’t check the phone of the boy the girls were accusing and why he was allowed on the same bus as the girl. “Kids lie a lot,” responded Coriell, the principal. “They lie about all kinds of things. They blow lots of things out of proportion on a daily basis. In 17 years, they do it all the time. So to my knowledge, at 2 o’clock when I checked again, there were no pictures.”

It's easy to armchair moralize that this child acted inappropriately. But I think the best quote of the article is...

“When we ignore the digital harm, the only moment that becomes visible is when the victim finally breaks,”

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Too add on here, the pricipals defense for doing nothing about what the girl and her friends reported worked out to "ive been doing this for a long time, and kids lie a lot."

Thats it. As usual, a victim of sexual harrasement gets told that since they dont have irrefutable proof, the "system" wont do anything. They didnt even act to seperate the two students from riding the same bus for 1 day.

Its no wonder the girl took action.

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[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 43 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sorry, if a child goes to the school and makes the allegations she did and the school's response is "I don't believe you" and then after a second time of reporting it to the school the response is "I can't find the images on Facebook, I don't believe you" and "no you can't contact your parents" it's frankly inevitable that this would escalate.

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I read the actual article when it was posted on social media weeks ago right after it happened.

I want you to understand something. Revenge porn is a crime and a horribly traumatizing experience. She didn't beat the kid up. She hit him. He didn't end up in hospital.

The school literally is at fault because they didn't actually do their due diligence to find out what happened and make even the most miniscule attempt to prevent the circulation of such photos. They expected a child or group of children to admit to circulating pornographic materials. If the school bus has video/photo evidence that this student had or circulated those materials he should be facing expulsion.

What we have to look at is whether or not this was self defense. I'd argue that the victim was trying to defend her right to privacy and to not have pornography materials of her spread around the school. This was defense of her mental health when the system failed.

I'd argue that while I don't condone fighting this is exactly the situation that leads to it and the school administration let it happen. Why did they allow these kids to get on the same bus? Why was she refused permission to call home? Why didn't they have her parent or guardian come pick her up?

There were multiple points where the school could have done something to mitigate the circumstances around this assault. They didn't. They failed. And then they punished her and did nothing to fix the situation where a real and serious criminal act involving CP circulation was happening.

That's bullshit.

Edit: You know what I think is even more bullshit? The situation probably wouldn't have gotten a resolution at all if she hadn't "snapped" . There's thousands of kids getting bullied everyday who don't snap and the only time their situation changes is when they are perceived to have done something wrong due to continued abuse being heaped upon them that the adults do nothing about. That's not okay.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And still, you can't resort to violence and expect not to be punished for it. We are not talking about self defense here.

We actually are talking about self defence here. The thirteen year old girl is the victim of a sex crime. A sex crime, I should note, that the authorities she duly reported it to treated lackadaisically doing minimal "investigation" and then nothing.

When you ~~feel~~are abandoned by your supposed protectors, and when you see the attacks happening again right in front of you, as well as attacks on your friends, you're going to take your defence in your own hands. Anybody who thinks this is wrong, but handwaves away everything that happened beforehand, is an idiot.

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