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[–] Elysia@hexbear.net 55 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

It's obviously conspiracy-brained but I still 100% believe most of these "suicides" are carried out by the IDF and that they monitor people's digital activities and off people who seem like they might turn into whistleblowers.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

AFAIK the Navy SEAL who turned communist after being deployed was murdered by his fellow SEALs and they called it a suicide. If I remember right, part of his journal was recovered by his family and what he wrote was how he tried to blow the whistle on war crimes but his COs ignored it.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm curious if you are referring to Pat Tillman or someone else?

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah yeah that's who I was thinking of.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

No problem, thanks! I just wanted to confirm because I would have liked to learn about any other similar cases.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago

That seems way more likely than they suddenly grew a conscience and yet also couldn't be bother to try to right their wrongs at all (other than the suicide).

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

While I'm sure some of these have legitimately been suicides (committing blatant mass murder of civilians can fuck up even the most evil minds), I have zero doubt that a good portion of them have been taken down from within and covered up.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 45 points 3 days ago

kids, frag your officers

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 51 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Uncritical support for self-denazifying zionists

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 48 points 3 days ago

Hold on, I'm now being told that his support level has been reduced to critical due to failure to frag commanding officer(s) in the process. You just can't leave points on the table like that if you want a chance at the coveted uncritical support rating

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 53 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wonder what the rate is for people born in Isra*el vs. people who moved there as adults.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 52 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I would expect it's higher for people who move there. People who move there can lie to themselves about what "Israel" is until they experience it, whereas people who are born there (especially of younger generations) have been raised their entire lives not to see Palestinians as people. The external propaganda minimizes the violence, whereas the internal propaganda justifies it to produce soldiers who are willing to continue it.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, like, I was doing Palestinian activism in college during the 2010"s, but I just thought it was like a deep sectarian conflict (as most Americans are taught to understand it). The genuine bonafide racism and genocidal tendencies of Israelis didn't actually click until I saw a documentary that was literally just walk up interviews with random Israelis, especially college students my age and like people in their mid-thirties. And the majority would openly say, sometimes even in English, that Palestine and all Palestinians should be completely wiped off the map, and that it is only by Israeli patience and goodwill that it hasn't happened yet.

Even the 'liberal zionists' talked about the Palestinians as if they were animals that needed to be tamed and then cared for. It was real eye opening stuff because I didn't think there were people who actually thought like that, let alone so many. And the crazy part is that all of them would smile the whole time, like it was all a big joke, even when these policies were actively happening and actively killing Palestinians, particularly children.

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] BGDelirium@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

Maybe the Abby Martin doc, "Gaza Fights For Freedom"?

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lol I would have included it if I could remember it has been over 6 or seven years since I last saw it. I will ask my friend who showed it to me next time I see them, they may remember.

[–] nasezero@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's worth noting that the small bit of pushback against the regime from inside the "country" has been almost entirely led by younger folks who were born and raised there. There's definitely a significant divide between those who became settlers by choice vs those forced into it by birth. The propaganda runs deep and the whole culture is vile, but at least their grip is weakening on the newer generations.

All that said, zero sympathy for any IDF nazi, drafted or not. Got drafted, didn't take the jail time to fight it, but still don't want to murder Palestinians? You've got other options to make yourself useful, maybe something that rhymes with "tagging".

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah.

Anyone of army age moving there after Oct 7 2023 is doing it to kill Palestinians - but he moved there in 2022.

That means he had the minimum time for indoctrination. And then being a citizen, he would have been drafted, but drafted to a genocide instead of just doing some training and job skills bullshit for a 2 and a half years like he expected. He was a zionist almost by definition, but probably didn't have the same ability to completely dehumanize someone that gets drilled into kids there from a young age. So he either popped himself or got Pat Tillmanned

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

That's my suspicion too but I kind of want to know for sure.

[–] 3rdWorldCommieCat@hexbear.net 34 points 3 days ago

Wish he had done it before killing a single palestinian but better late than never.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago

another kkkrackkker down

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

The bug has been squashed

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

one of the very very few IDF soldiers to ever shoot a terrorist

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

Rest in piss Bozo.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

X marks the spot.