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Something I was just made aware of: after shooting and killing Alex Pretti, ICE officers then stood back and shot him 5 more times.
ICE murdered that man.
From here we have two paths:
One: Civility is eventually restored to government and these people are tried and convicted for their crimes.
Two: All out civil war.
We will not let ICE, Trump or any of these Nazis complete their agenda.
There's a third option: people don't resist and the regime does whatever it wants.
So far we've chosen that option.
I want to believe that the killing of Good and Pretti will be a turning point…but I’m a middle aged American who has developed some cynicism about my fellow countrymen…
That would be pretti goode. I hope that happens
The third option is what I expect from years of "American exceptionalism" brainwashing.
I expect them to act smug and talk about the midterms.
100% - You're suggesting to fight the U.S. Military in power. History has shown that nobody "wins" against the American Military. (inb4 some obscure factoid). Even in Vietnam or Afghanistan, it was just destruction - nobody won anything except the investors.
There's 0 leadership down in the trenches too. So ontop of suggesting to fight the U.S. Military, you're suggesting to do so as unorganized. That's going to be easily spun by media as terrorist cells. Sure, they're throwing around "domestic terrorist" already, but it hits differently when they only see 1 side dying. Once there are actual gunfights in the street is when they can rally support from their base for actual action.
We have to wait for midterms. There's been so much bad press regarding Trumps 2nd term that regaining control of the Senate is doable, albeit difficult. In the chance that the Senate is held, then there's a chance to restore order and bring people to justice. Midterms is going to be impossible to avoid for those who participate so it's going to be impossible to avoid the onslaught of bullshit that ensues and will be a wake up call for the people not on Lemmy (or Reddit) and still on Facebook or X (Boomers).
Personally, I think a Civil War in inevitable. I don't think the Trump Admins are going to recede power. I don't think Dems are going to get a majority in the Senate, and I think things are going to get worse. That being said, Midterms is a chance to find leadership and a chance for actual States to break out of this charade.
Ironically that's how things went so wrong in Russia, too.
Germany too. Dont Be A Sucker should be alll over social media
Military coup. The only way a civil war is successful is if the military are on the side of the people. The most important of which would be the USN and USAF Strategic Forces. A prolonged ground war is only won by sea, air, and nuclear forces. More specifically nuclear forces in the hands of said military who will NOT use them on our own land.
It will present a serious challenge with all the Pentagon purges. But the majority of Flag and Line officers are from West Point, Annapolis, and Maxwell. It's unlikely most side with Trump (for now). The real trick will hinge on the NCOs, as the US Military is predominantly a middle-out force, and senior NCOs hold the bulk of our service members' respect. What they decide to do in the majority will dictate the outcome of a civil war. One NG commander already stated publicly he will order his soldiers to protect protesters from ICE agents. There is a small chance.
Ideally the next time President Trump boards Marine 1 he's taken into custody at a military base with a large Delta, Rangers, or NG presence to subdue USSS agents. With a Federal Judge, Vance, Speaker Johnson, and Grassley in tow. Invoke 25 or Martial Law, and go down the line of succession until someone takes the oath. This is highly unlikely though. A full impeachment is more likely, but a lot of people will need to for die before it will happen.
It's either that or The Man in The High Castle. The American Fourth Reich.
A military coup will not help, assassinating Republican leaders will.
"What the f*ck did you do?"
NEEDS to be embraced as a slogan with the same passion as "Let's Go Brandon"
It's the perfect Anti-ICE, Anti-Trump, Anti-Capitalist message.
It calls back to the decades of intelligent well educated Americans saying this was an inevitability given the obvious path we've been on.
I saw a guy walking around town the other day with a sign that said, "Are we great yet?" and felt like that was a great little slogan that confronts Trump supporters with the fact that all of this was supposedly being done to restore whatever personally idealized version of "great" America once embodied to them. Pretty sure the majority of people who voted for Trump wouldn't even say that using federal agents to murder Americans in the street for exercising their constitutional right to protest is included in their own personal definition of the "greatness" that they feel America needs to get back to.
It's a good message for the non-insane, but anyone still pro-Trump will just tell themselves that we haven't gotten rid of enough gays/immigrants/trans people yet for the country to be as great as it once was in some imagined past. In that light the sign has an ambiguous interpretation
He saved that woman's life, but I cannot imagine how she feels right now. I would be sick with survivor's guilt.
This is just straight up murder. He shot man in the back a dozen times with no threat to his safety at all, this is AFTER they gang beat him to the ground for no reason. This is unacceptable.
Best video I've seen:
https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qm2vi0/heres_your_proof_with_the_moment_of_truth_isolated/
Trump's Taliban doing summary street executions now.
Thugs checklist:
5 happened before 4
Its a minor detail, but really highlights the heinous nature of what happened here. They disarmed him before executing him.
Honestly, i think its a pretty major detail. They disarmed him and then shot him 10 times. Its what changes this from murder to execution. The man was not a threat the whole time but after they took his only means of being a threat they then killed him and are claiming he was a threat. They neutered their own defence. If he still had the gun when they shot him they would have an easier time lying about what happened.
Yep. Fixed.
We need to see the video he was making, you know, the one to hold the ICE agents accountable, the one they killed him for
We never will see that one. The ICEholes will have taken it as "evidence" so they can destroy it.
If his icloud or google account can be accessed then it is likely the video exists still. I doubt those agents were smart enough to realise this and likely destroyed the phone thinking that would do it.
Can apple or google access your photos and videos?
Yes they can but they'll only do it when they're sucking up to federal law enforcement