That makes this administration terrorists.
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“Illegally provide us with information that isn’t ours, change your laws to our preference, and we’ll stop murdering your people” sure is an innocent and not at all fascist statement to make.
Also worth noting that the statement is a lie. Even if Walz capitulated ICE would continue to victimize Minnesota.
Might stop murdering your people*
"common sense"
Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon has issued the following statement in response:
The answer to Attorney General Bondi’s request is no. Her letter is an outrageous attempt to coerce Minnesota into giving the federal government private data on millions of U.S. Citizens in violation of state and federal law. This comes after repeated and failed attempts by the DOJ to pressure my office into providing the same data.
Minnesota’s elections are fair, accurate, honest, and secure. Every step of the way they are organized by local officials – Minnesotans who do honest, hard work to ensure their neighbors, friends, and family have access to a secure ballot.
Our office has already provided the Department of Justice a detailed explanation of how we successfully manage and secure our voter registration files. Yet, without alleging any wrongdoing by Minnesota, the DOJ continues to demand that we disclose private data such as social security and drivers’ license information. We have repeatedly offered to disclose to the DOJ voter data that is already public, without the need to reveal private data protected by state and federal law. The DOJ has declined those offers.
Attorney General Bondi knows full well that the Governor has no formal role in managing our elections or maintaining our voter registration system. She is also well aware that this specific request is the subject of active litigation with our office.
Our position on the federal government’s request to access Minnesota voting records starts and ends with the law. The law does not give the federal government the authority to obtain this private data. Minnesota is not alone in declining to disclose sensitive personal data on voters. So far, thirty-one other states have said no. DOJ is in active litigation with twenty-four of those states– and the courts have swiftly dismissed DOJ’s claims in three of them.
In Minnesota, we will continue to follow the letter of the law, which requires us to protect the private data of our voters.
It is deeply disturbing that the U.S. Attorney General would make this unlawful request a part of an apparent ransom to pay for our state’s peace and security.
More broadly, the federal government must end the unprecedented and deadly occupation of our state immediately.
The tactics used by too many ICE agents have been dangerous, destabilizing, unnecessarily cruel, and counterproductive. They are tactics that often seem aimed at instilling fear more than protecting the public.
Finally, I have been heartened by Minnesotans’ resolve thus far to remain peaceful and law-abiding. I want to echo the calls by public officials of all kinds to de-escalate, even when the federal government appears to want escalation. We should continue to meet darkness and division with light and compassion.
The only response:
"Nuts!" was the legendary one-word reply from Brig. Gen. Anthony McAuliffe on December 22, 1944, rejecting a German ultimatum to surrender during the Battle of the Bulge. Acting commander of the 101st Airborne at Bastogne, he used the expression as a polite substitute for "go to hell" when refusing to surrender.
I fully support this.
Did you happen to learn this from an AFN skit?
It was never about “illegal” immigrants.
But it was a welcoming side effect to put people in camps
Maybe not even a side-effect, they just figured they could catch 2 birds with this 1 stone.
When is one of these state governors going to just straight up say "what ICE is doing is illegal and unconstitutional. we won't let you do this. leave now or be shot on sight by real law enforcement"? Just going "nooo, please don't do thiiiiis" while armed masked thugs kill people in your streets isn't doing shit to people who don't care about the law and think they'll always be in power.
Do you honestly think the cops are going to do anything?
They will just refuse to enforce the laws they disagree with while playing games on their phones and looking for black people to assault. Same as always.
Okay, so open citizen enrollment and empower them to. Probably could get a volunteer force with no pay at this point.
Not that I disagree with the sentiment, but that would "officially" start the second American civil war. And despite the fact that we've basically already begun it, the politicians are all hoping things aren't really that bad and we can vote our way out and everything will go back to normal.
There needs to be a much bigger demonstration by the people before they risk anything.
You are right. We at only "unofficially" at war so the people are the ones dying
We wouldn't want Nazi cop blood spilled.
... that is essentially what ICE is. A bunch of racists with guns who want to shoot people.
Guess what? They don't shoot the people you want them to.
And a state run militia is literally a civil war and will result in the army getting called in to put them down. And you can bet the brave men and women of the us armed forces will have no problem murdering and raping people without the 12 hour flight to get there.
Orgs like The Black Panthers have always walked a very fine line. Yes, they are technically a terrorist organization by most (modern) definitions of the term. But they ALSO put way more effort into winning over The People than anything else so the only way to really root them out is for the government to get their Tulsa on.
And considering basically the entire news media is complicit with the christofacists at this point... it won't take much to turn public opinion and decide that "Yeah. Chicago really IS a lawless land that is worse than Ghaza and everyone there needs to be rescued. Send in the marines"
So don't do it like ICE. Do actual background checks, don't just hire anyone with a gun.
They don’t shoot the people you want them to.
They are shooting exactly the people Trump and Bondi want them to.
There’s a huge contradiction here when you say that the black panthers who feed and clothe people in their communities and call for positive change that benefits everyone are a terrorist organization and white nationalists organizations go unscrutinized year after year until they are running around the streets shooting people execution style with state backing…words matter and that sounds like government koolaid to me
The Black Panthers (in their various incarnations) are an armed organization that actively uses the threat of gun violence to keep The Enemy at bay. That is literally a terrorist organization.
Does that mean they don't do good? Of course not. Just like plenty of organized crime groups have historically been the only people looking out for the community.
But it is very much a balancing act to control public opinion so that people support and defend their local gunmen rather than turn them in so that they can stop living in terror. The Troubles in Ireland are a "great" example of how rapidly this can shift once a cold war goes hot, as it were.
So no. This is only a "contradiction" if you don't understand that words have meaning and that meaning isn't based on how happy you are.
This is only a "contradiction" if you don't understand that words have meaning and that meaning isn't based on how happy you are.
You can engage in discourse without resorting to condescension. You weaken your arguments.
If the only way you can be convinced by an argument is if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy then... you are pretty much what The Algorithm has made you. Maybe work on that. Or keep tone policing. Up to you.
But hey, I'll keep in mind the importance of making you and others feel good when I... literally respond to what someone said.
“what ICE is doing is illegal and unconstitutional. we won’t let you do this. leave now or be shot on sight by real law enforcement”?
Law enforcement would likely not execute this order even if given it.
Which, if anything, is evidence the police should have been fired and the whole system retooled a long time ago.
I'll stop beating around the bush and just say it: I know why dems won't stand up to MAGA no matter what ICE does to their constituents. It's because they're as greedy and authoritarian as the rest, just wearing a mask of civility and wielding softer power. They're letting it happen because they will find a way to enrich themselves regardless.
Which, if anything, is evidence the police should have been fired and the whole system retooled a long time ago.
Of course, but until qualified immunity is repealed, Democrats have plenty of (non-conspiratorial) motivation not to give police orders that they know the police won't follow: it makes them look like weaklings.
Both parties pretend that law enforcement is under democratic control. It is not.
Republicans obtain the loyalty of law enforcement by catering to their demands, providing them moral support, taking their side in nearly all disputes, and telling them they can do "whatever the hell they want" to quote Trump. Republicans are less afraid of what the police might do when unleashed, and are reasonably certain that the police will follow their orders because of all of this.
It also helps that what Republicans would order a LEO to do are the things they already want to do (i.e., harass, arrest, and even murder brown people, liberals, and anyone else who gives them lip).
Both parties pretend that law enforcement is under democratic control. It is not.
There are options.
I don't think Americans are even willing to admit to themselves that law enforcement, even in ocean blue regions, are not under democratic control and the orders elected officials give them are mainly suggestions.
I understand not wanting to believe this as it is deeply disturbing. But things cannot be changed until basic realities are understood.
I would say that while neither group is under full democratic control, that local and state LEOs are at least hemmed in somewhat by often living amongst those they are policing and are usually experienced enough to know that following some of their most block-headed instincts (e.g., no knock, no announcement entries into residences) will earn you a bullet in the face as if you are a home invader, and that if the shooter survives the encounter, the system will likely let the person who put the bullet in you walk.
ICE are brazen because while they are not a new force, they haven't had significant enough field experience in America to know that rules of engagement aren't followed solely to protect the people subject to your patrols.
Case in point, look at the LA county sheriffs. Known to be home to multiple gang members from at least 1970.
Police are rarely under the strong (or even weak) control of elected representatives in the United States (and probably anywhere.)
Trump wants escalation and violence. Then he can use the Insurrection Act and it’s all over. Remember these are swing states being targeted.
Not saying any of this is ok or justified, but it is part of a pressure cooker strategy and all the state governors know it.
I got news for ya: the martial law and brutal oppression of all American people is inevitable if MAGA isn't stopped. It's not a matter of them only doing it if we get out of hand. Every day is another step they take toward the goal of total subjugation.
Honestly? I agree.
But you also have to pick and choose a battlefield, as it were. The christofacists have pretty much the entirety of the news media behind them. That is why people globally insist "nobody is resisting" because... those protests never get any air time. And it is nothing new. Look how fast the news media was to condemn Trayvon Martin (and the many others like him) as violent gangbanging thugs while completely ignoring the lunatic who stalked and murdered him.
Look at Minnesota. The people being murdered are poets and nurses. And that is building up outrage to the point that even the news media can't run a smear campaign fast enough to stop (localized) general strikes.
Contrast that with gunning down people who are screaming "wildcats" and shooting back. It becomes "both sides are bad" and we roll in the military to make sure there is no more unrest. And while the LA Riots were not as violent as the media wanted to portray... there was a LOT of footage to distract people from Rodney King.
As a bit of hope, I suggest people look at how the Influencers are handling this. No, not fucking Hasan. Outlets like MinnMax are a great case study. Roll back two years and Ben Hanson was more or less stiill toeing the Gamergate era line of "we are apolitical and here to enjoy games". But as things have gotten much worse, he (caught up with some of his contemporaries) and has become explicitly political and making sure that the audience is aware of what is going on in Minneapolis.
Yes, doing a fundraiser... is a real liberal ass thing to do. But the point is less the money (which genuinely does help) and more forcing people to understand what is going on. Because it is way too easy to duck into our comfort zones when the world is collapsing around us... we have been doing that for decades. But when those comfort zones make sure people understand? It stops being "Ugh, fucking Anderson Cooper is yapping again" and instead becomes "My online personality I have a parasocial relationship with is just a normal person like me. Why are they worried?"
And... that goes a LONG way towards doing what the news media SHOULD be doing. So that when the next person is murdered... because there will be a next one, people understand that it is a human being who was killed and not some fentanyl dealing monster who just happens to look like a school teacher.
There are more ICE/CBP personnel in Minneapolis than state and local law enforcement combined.
Even if the Minnesota FOP hadn't explicitly endorsed ICE, they still wouldn't have the numbers to do anything about it...
ICE didn't teleport into the state. They're not all standing in the same place at the same time. There are options. I mean, other than flopping on the floor and going "NOOOOO" like Stewart on Mad TV.
The option you are seeing is the one that the people of Minneapolis (who experienced violent unrest related to policing in their city recently) have chosen.
The people out there protecting their neighbors in MSP are showing incredible guts, cleverness, and solidarity.
So sure dump on the people who voted for this, dump on useless cops, but the private citizens of that area have stepped the fuck up and are putting their bodies on the line for their community.
What the people in MSP has nothing to do with a lack of courage and if you can't see that you need to take a nap and wipe your eyes.
Oh the people are doing just fine. It's the people they elected who are doing fuck-all and I'm tired of them letting the federal government tread on their constituents.
Okay? They didn't have to teleport into the state to have 3000 ~~agents~~ armed thugs in Minneapolis.
You've seen the numbers they show up in, right? They basically swarm each area they visit. Even if you redirect enough local law enforcement to present a forceful deterrent, another ICE posse will just pop up somewhere else and wreak havoc.
They have more numbers, and that's a plain fact that you have to recognize because no amount of wishful thinking will get around it.
If you can get a few thousand armed Minnesotans to communicate with each other, coordinate in an organized fashion, and patrol the city and outlying neighborhoods in large enough groups to present an effective deterrent, then that's an option. But good luck making that a reality...
They're going to deploy ICE to polling stations to steal the elections in November.
In GOP states, they'll simply give ICE unlimited access to ballot boxes and voting machines.
This is the official moment democracy has died in the US. They're telling everyone what they're going to do in front of god and everyone.
This is the first time I've seen this take and I hate how accurate it feels. Ew.
Racketeering
Nice request to make the day after disarming, beating , AND murdering in cold blood a US Citizen at a peaceful protest. Governor Walz, please reply, "Hell to the fuck no, AND get out of MN." No one in MN or anywhere in the US should give aid, shelter, or comfort of any sort to ICE or any federal agents.
Walz’s office provided the following statement to 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS about the Attorney General’s letter:
“We repeat our request to the administration to engage in a serious conversation about ending this federal occupation.
“3,000 federal agents have brought chaos and destruction to our state. They have fatally shot two people and wounded another; detained children as young as two years old; racially profiled off-duty officers; broken into the home of an elderly U.S. citizen and dragged him outside in freezing temperatures; and made children afraid to go to school.
“This is not common sense, lawful immigration enforcement. That is not what this occupation is about. And it’s not what the attorney general’s letter is about.”
Bondi's letter, included in the article is a farcical piece of fiction. The plan it clear, ICE and the Federal gov't will escalate day by day till they can justify applying the Insurrection Act, which is highly ironic as trump is an unconvicted insurrectionist who should never have been allowed to run for any government office, after January 6.
This is all to try and start a civil war, to give them the excuse they need to Seize permanent control.