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[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Go on Andrew you can do it we all believe in you, try it right now and show the haters!

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

EDIT: It appears that another party has published the contents of my journal before me, currently with a resounding 15 upvotes. I believe this previous poster is a farce. A Telvanni spy sent to ridicule my work.

"I believe I may have found the correct formula for the spell I am developing. With it, I will be able to travel great distances without the need to pay others for the service.

If all goes well, I will test out the new spell tomorrow. I believe I have worked out all of the possible complications. It will allow me to leap great distances, covering many hundreds of miles. Never before has one been able to travel in this manner: vaulting from the ground, sailing through the sky, all without that terrible disorientation of a spell of flying.

The time is almost upon me. My research is finished, and all of my calculations are checked and rechecked. They laughed at me when I suggested this. We'll see who laughs after I leap to the top of their towers and scream out my success."

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

When there's a smile in your heart There's no better time to start Think of all the joy you'll find When you leave the world behind And bid your cares goodbye You can fly! You can fly! You can fly! You can fly! You can fly!

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I remember when New Age sold me on Idealism.

Here's the thing. It's bullshit.

History has many examples of men who fell to their deaths believing God would stop the fall.

One of them was actually a guy who claimed to be the second coming of Jesus. Claimed he'd miraculously fly on a donkey.

Fell right off the cliff and debunked his whole religion he did.

[–] Grail@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Actually, I'm going to offer a counterargument.

There's lots of flat earthers who conducted experiments to determine if the earth is flat, and got the result they wanted. My favourite is the guy who brought a spirit level on a plane. When the level didn't move, he said it was proof the earth was flat. He was wrong, because he interpreted the results of his experiment wrong. His method didn't test what he said it did.

I think your Jesus 2 is like the plane level guy. His method is wrong, it doesn't test what he's trying to test. Or at least, doesn't test realism vs idealism. What it does test is whether his own espoused beliefs are the ultimate nature of reality. So that guy is wrong to say that he can perform the miracle of flight. But I argue there's a lot of grey area in between "This one guy's beliefs are the ultimate nature of reality" and "naive realism is true".

What I believe is that there exist rules of psychology which operate at a deeper level than our own surface level beliefs. For example, sometimes I'm really mad with My partner because we had a fight and I believe that My life is worse without it. But then I go to bed, and in the morning I remember how much I love it, and we make up. I had a belief, but it was not the truth of My being. The deeper truth was My great love for it.

Your Jesus 2 fellow perhaps didn't believe that he could fly on a donkey, in his heart of hearts. On a surface level, maybe he believed it, but I'm not convinced it was the core of his being. I think it would have been much easier for him to persuade the core of his being that he could fly, if he had been in the cockpit of an airplane.

I don't actually believe in airplanes, I think they're just a symbol in our conscious interface, as Donald Hoffman argues. But I think airplanes are connected to some rule of our psychology that allows us to fly under certain conditions. And to our limited point of view, that rule looks a lot like an airplane.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

I bet he knew, but at that point he'd talked himself into a corner with his followers and had no choice but to jump or face the shame.

Wish Trump had the balls to feel shame

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 3 points 1 day ago

Darwin Awards in action.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Nah, you just need enough faith to see that he actually flew.

[–] me_myself_and_I@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Birds are not real. They are government spy drones. Lockdown was to recharge their batteries! (sarcasm obviously dont ban me please)

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Everyone can fly. Not everyone can land.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

there's a special word for people trying to make someone else fly; defenestration

[–] Scuzzm0nkey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I do believe that requires an open window in the vicinity as well.

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doesn't strictly have to be open, though that will make it easier.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

Can't you just throw someone off a cliff, and then throw a window after them?

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My elementary school classmate Seth did this, he wound up with a broken leg. Although he did hedge his bets with an umbrella, maybe that ruined it.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Shockingly common story.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 16 points 2 days ago

I believe I may have found the correct formula for the spell I am developing. With it, I will be able to travel great distances without the need to pay others for the service.

If all goes well, I will test out the new spell tomorrow. I believe I have worked out all of the possible complications. It will allow me to leap great distances, covering many hundreds of miles. Never before has one been able to travel in this manner: vaulting from the ground, sailing through the sky, all without that terrible disorientation of a spell of flying.

The time is almost upon me. My research is finished, and all of my calculations are checked and rechecked. They laughed at me when I suggested this. We'll see who laughs after I leap to the top of their towers and scream out my success.

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

And so he plans to try reallw hard now? I wouldn't want to stop him...

[–] STUNT_GRANNY@lemmy.world 123 points 2 days ago (8 children)

The secret is that you have to throw yourself at the ground and miss.

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I remember reading that for the first time at 13 and thinking it was the smartest fucking thing I had ever read. It makes perfect sense too. Sadly my aim is impeccable.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

According to catholics, that's how sex works too. Too bad they're all sharpshooters...

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's basically how orbiting works in a roundabout way. You just needed to go faster!

[–] foofiepie@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

in a roundabout way

Very good.

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[–] PDFuego@lemmy.world 131 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Pretty sure everyone my age who saw the episode of Dragon Ball Z where Gohan teaches Videl how to fly all sat there that day and fuckin tried our hardest.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 84 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

One of the consequences of getting older is that you forget what its like to simply not know things.

My two year old son is constantly climbing up stuff and tumbling off it without any regard to the possibility that gravity might be holding him back. Every time he lands hard, he looks at me with tears in his eyes, as though the whole world has betrayed him. If you could just fly by not understand gravity, everyone under the age of six would be levitating constantly.

Although, in Andrew's case, it might be less "getting older" and more "getting repeatedly concussed".

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 15 points 2 days ago

A friend of mine came close once. In Morrowind, he made a jumping potion that allowed him to clear the entire island and two jumps. one from the edge of the map to the top of the mountain, and then another one to the other edge of the island. He got stunned at the end of that last fall and drowned in about a foot of water.

[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

To Andrew Tate: Try me. Sincerely, every single pilot in the world

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

To Andrew Tate: Try me. Sincerely, every single ~~pilot~~ precipice in the world

[–] pseudo@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

Many people did. Now there are living in Toulouse.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

Oh shit, I thought that was a LinkedIn Lunatic post and was searching for the next part.

[–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

Wingsuits and gliders are the ways people fly.

[–] Darkness343@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

You just need to push your ki downwards like in dragon ball and you can fly

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

My paraglider says otherwise

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I can't tell the difference between Andrew Tate accounts and Andrew Tate parody accounts. Wonder if he's trying to lay the groundwork for an insanity defense?

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[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure trying to fly is a pretty common experience, and many of those people tried really really hard.

I did. I settled on doing it with mechanical help.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I heard that it’s easier if you start from the top of a high building so you have time to get a feel for the air.

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[–] nyankas@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Franz Reichelt, the Flying Tailor, seemed to be pretty sure he could fly when, in 1912, he tried testing a wingsuit he designed himself. By jumping from the Eiffel Tower. He could not fly.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Some crazy person eventually got their fancy wing suit to actually work eventually.

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