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What’s a conspiracy theory you no longer call a theory?
The franklin scandal that probably was part of the same ring as Epstein
Also Epstein isn't dead. He's probably in Israel. The online account activity, the guard testimony, that one 4chan guard post, the weird autopsy, the nonsense noose, the photos of him, now even the notes in his cell which are for some reason partially redacted. The harder you look the less dead he looks
A conspiracy theory is a specific sociological phenomenon, though, not just a theory about a conspiracy.
Like, I could say maybe Hitler had something to do with the Reichstag fire, but that was never subject of a conspiracy theory movement.
The ATF at least had advance notice of the Oklahoma City Bombing, and perhaps had a hand in planning it and carrying it out.
Four most damning points:
ATF employees in the Federal Building were mysteriously seen emptying their offices out the day before. Despite it being a normal weekday and normal workday, none of them happened to be in the office on that particular day.
Despite all the chaos and destruction left in the wake of the bombing (and ongoing search for survivors), they supposedly found the license plate of the rental truck and called the rental company and found out who rented the truck ... all within 30 minutes of the explosion. (And this is with 90's tech, by the way, so it all had to be done over the phone and mostly with paper records.) Within only hours, local police found the (alleged) perpetrator, supposedly in a completely random, unrelated traffic stop. (To me, this reeks of them already knowing exactly who did it and where he was, and them using parallel construction to find a chain of evidence for that which wouldn't lead back to them.)
The surveillance tapes of several nearby businesses were seized as part of the investigation. That's fairly normal. What's not normal is that none of those tapes were ever seen by the public again, not even featuring as evidence in the ensuing court cases. They were collected as evidence and then just ... disappeared forever.
With astounding quickness -- in less than 30 days -- the entire site was bulldozed and paved over, destroying and covering up any evidence that may have been there. It was a huge building, the site of a major disaster, and an active crime scene ... and they still managed to turn it into a parking lot within only 30 days.
Very suspicious points
The world is being held hostage by a cabal of insanely rich pedophiles who are only concerned with accumulating more wealth and remaining unaccountable for their crimes.
i really wonder what makes people SO obsessed with their own pedophilia and urge to rape that they'd rather kill most of humanity than grow up as a person
jungian shadow: deep, deathly scared shame in the subconscious is my guess
I think the drive for money and power is to constantly keep themselves unaccountable for their crimes.
That the Democrat party is complicit in the fascist takeover
Well that's true
Western media is beholden to Israeli interests.
And Kyle runs Hollywood!
International trafficking and pedophile rings existed long before Epstein ever became involved in the 80s, and it's very naive to believe it just suddenly ended when he was "suicided" in his jail cell. Many of the most infamous busts that occured before his involvement can actually be connected via archived news articles from the 1970s and 80s: Eye of the Chickenhawk (2023)
Conspiracies about the "dangers" of a "one world government"/U.N. new world order/Greta Thunberg is the "antichrist" have always mainly been fueled by propaganda campaigns of wealthy conservatives around the globe who want to destroy the existence of international law in order to avoid prosecution for their crimes.
•People should be more aware’: the business dynasties who benefited from Nazis
•Dark Money review: Nazi oil, the Koch brothers and a rightwing revolution
•Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to China Winning the AI Race
•Silicon Valley enabled brutal mass detention and surveillance in China, internal documents show
(Also, there (/s)hockingly seems to be quite a lot of overlap with these wealthy conservatives who oppose regulations at home and abroad, and members of the international pedophile ring who view other human beings as disposable objects.)
Yep Epstein has become the sacrificial lamb for all of them. He maybe is dead cos they needed to make sure people didn't find out about the other child sex abuse rings... distraction works.
He likely wasn't the only one at the time... and right now there'll be more
"The moon landing was staged"
Yes. Because that's how orbital rockets work.
The moon landing was done by Hollywood. However, they got Stanley Kubrick to do it, and being the perfectionist he was, he insisted upon shooting on location.
Plastic recycling is a PR campaign to relieve our guilt about single-use plastics and keep consuming. In reality: 95% of plastic is trashed. The oil and gas industry knew widespread plastic recycling was never feasible back in the 70's but keep up the narrative.
It's all trash, the recycled plastic is good for less than nothing, as it frees masses of chemical additives that aren't well regulated or even known in the process, and they can't use it for basically anything.
They had documents from their internal communications at the oil companies leak I think about manufacturing this whole recycling thing to shift the blame onto us, and we all bought into it, I remember them pushing this hard in elementary school. Reduce, Reuse, recycle, which ok, that's all fine and well, but we are living in a society run by people forcing us into wasteful lifestyles.
There's a learning there. Corporations haven't done that only once, it's their mode of operation. The food pyramid? Sugar vs Fat? Personal carbon footprint?
It's all mostly lies (international differences may apply) created by small groups to make money (big surprise there).
The biggest mistake we made is personifying companies and removing people from accountability.
A ring of rich pedophiles runs the world.
Yep we can only wish it were just a conspiracy now.
The world is run by pedophiles
The world is ran by a small group of "elites".
Pedophile cabal "elites".
Some of them are even canabals and do kinky rituals, satan, owls, Yahweh, etc...
John deer purposefully puts out vehicles with faulty or low life parts so that they break down and need to be repaired, letting them essentially sell each vehicle twice.
Right to repair laws need to be a thing asap.
Its not just John Deere, lots of companies do this. Its called planned obsolescence.
Engineer: we can use this $0.05 nut and it should last a decade, or we can use this $0.049 nut and it'll maybe last 2 years.
Boss: Use the 0.49 nut and were giving you a promotion!
It's not just deere
Israel has the government of the United States occupied
Not completely. A big chunk is Russian.
Doubt it Epstein and Ghisline were Mossad and we’re not dumping hundreds of billions of dollars to support russias imperialist ambitions
The big one right now, that Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset compromising US and UK swells, and other fancy people. Compromising the jet set maybe I should say, the ivy league types..
I've known it for a long time, 2020 or before I forget I read about his meeting with intelligence agents, flying with the intelligence boss of israel on his private plane to Israel and back.
It sounded too fantastical for most people though, until about last year. Really we have the rw influencers to thank for this conspiracy being accepted as true, a few to their credit did tell the truth on this one, credit where it's due. Fuck all the way off with your but their motivations weren't pure, then go get fucked by the Israelis that are the ones putting forth the accounting on their motivations.
the elites of the world know that eventually society as we know it will collapse. so right now they are entering the smash and grab stage of that collapse to gather as many resources, assets, power etc as possible so that they can have not only a better chance of survival, but also a better chance of reforming the new world in their image.
in fact i think they are trying to quicken the pace, or at least some "tribes" are.
the united states will invade iran and several other nations, it will fall due to civil war and devalue the US dollar which will collapse the current economic model, and take other nations economies with it. the elite that orchestrated this will cash in their saved assets into a new liquid currency and use it to buy up everything on fire sale. as is tradition. then they will bring the world into a temporary techno feudalist state, or at least form several nations into them.
they are keeping records of everyone, everything, every tap of your key board, every shred of data is saved for future use. even being near a router is enough for them to take at least some biometric data about you now.
eventually this will be uses to sort humanity into different in and out groups, and several culling waves will take place to reduce the working classes man power and ability to resist future automated forces.
BCI interfaces will be used to control the remaining useful population, and integrate a kill switch into every human alive. using nano technology they might even be able to make it airborn.
sounds sci fi until you look into what tech exists already today let alone what can exist a few years from now with more advanced "AI" systems doing the heavy lifting and filling in the gaps. combined with quantum computing, things will get extremely weird when those two technologies merge, and they will merge eventually.
the tools they use today to manipulate the masses will be childrens toys in the face of what is to come. and consent will not be a part of the equation when it comes to discerning effectiveness.
this will take decades to play out. but at the end of it we will have a much smaller, very tightly controlled population, and the worst psychopathic nut jobs at the head of it all. if we dont wipe ourselves out before then entirely.
needless to say, enjoy your days while they are as simple as they are now.
Jokes on them, earth is going to cook us before their plan succeeds
the elites of the world know that eventually society as we know it will collapse.
I'm curious why you believe it has to collapse?
I agree that they are attempting to make it collapse by making things as unsustainable as possible, but if they weren't interfering with and manipulating society and hoarding resources for themselves, what is it that would be driving the collapse?
They remind me of any other doomsday cult that's ever existed before them, but they've been given way too much power and control. They're always so convinced that they have all the answers, but they've also got a really bad track record of proving themselves right. Especially when it comes to tech capabilities developing at the speed they believe they will.
There's this really interesting book called the Technological Society that was written in the 50s by a French philosopher and sociologist named Jaques Ellul, but predicted much of the present day broligarchy in a scarily accurate way.
A lot of people mistakenly believe the book is supposed to be a sort of Luddite argument opposed to technology, but it's really just a warning of the inherent danger of placing the importance of technology above the importance of humans, with Ellul warning that the never ending drive towards "efficiency" as a means to an end, inevitably creates more inefficiencies that then have to be solved with other more "efficient" solutions.
Basically, life becomes nothing but a never ending series of "digging a new hole to fill an old one." This seems to be the current driving factor of a society on the brink of collapse.
He even predicts the eventual creation of something like "benevolent" concentration camps where elites will attempt to forcefully create their own versions of a controlled utopia. Honestly seems to align pretty closely with current broligarchy philosophies like SBF's ideas about utilitarianism whether society likes it or not, or Peter Thiel and his delusional beliefs that he (along with people like Jeffrey Epstein) are part of some elite set of leaders burdened/chosen by God or nature to control and save the masses from their own lowly desires. Thiel: elites must use “esoteric” doublespeak to hide their true intentions from the masses who wouldn’t and shouldn’t understand the plans their natural-born leaders were making for them.
Ellul predicts that a society where technology winds up controlling humans rather than ensuring humans remain in control of technology, inevitably lead to a loss of freedom and creation of controlled utopian environments. However, he also believes that ultimately, any attempt that relies on technology to maintain and hold that control will always eventually fail. This is because technology relies on predetermined predictions and efficiency as an end while humans are driven by a sort of chaotic spontaneity and a desire to remain free.
Even if you successfully created a "utopian" concentration camp where you presumably meet the needs of everyone in the camp as efficiently as possible, you will never be able to fulfill the desires that are ultimately driving humans, or be able to predict the spontaneity of human behavior on an individual scale.
In other words, even if you can brainwash the masses into obedience, Ellul believes there is something uniquely human that will forever lead to individual rebellion against the controlled and automated system, which then has its own chain reaction on others due to other innately human characteristics still retained by the masses.
For example, empathy shared with other humans might lead to unpredictable behavior on a massive scale. (A concrete example of this would be something like witnessing the murder of innocent protestors. The murder is carried out and meant to instill fear in others, but instead backfires and it winds up just driving more individuals to become angry at the injustice they witnessed and join the rebellion).
While the elites often attack human traits like empathy as "toxic," and try to present it as a weakness, we also see over and over again that it appears to be one of the biggest thorns in their sides when it comes to predicting and controlling the masses.
interesting take, i appreciate the write up. and ill look into reading that, it sounds insightful.
however, the inevitable collapse of the current world order has already been called by the middle powers, particularily by mark carney the current canadian prime minister of canada at davos recently. he suggests an economic work around through trade agreements that would seek to lessen american dependance, to mitigate damage and create a "new world order" in the face of the inevitable collapse of the US economy.
no empire is permanent, they always fail, its a matter of time. and right now all the economic dominos have lined up to showcase this absolute truth. regardless of the failure of nation, or empire, there will always be those who will find a way to maintian their power and influence post collapse.
when i say collapse. i mean a complete shift in our current state as a society and civilisation.
Marx predicted this roughly 200 years ago, lenin later on predicted the outcome further in his critique of monopoly in empire the highest stage of capitalism, and we see it now that these words ring true.
the consolidation of wealth leads to economic turmoil for the working class, unrest, revolution, etc. eventually the wealth divide becomes so vast that society becomes so unaffordable that we as humans have no choice but to revolt.
this is common sense, especially from the POV of those who caused it. and logic dictates that regardless of their lack of empathy, that those who caused it, and pushed it to its extremes understand the risks that come with their greed. it also dictates that they will do whatever it takes to preserve themselves, even if it means using immoral means of mass genocide, and general controls of the population.
AI is not profitable, through the lense of economics it is a dead end technology in terms of its use for long term profitability, and when i say long term i mean decades, and decades, considering the fallout that it brings to would be consumers. but in the view of someone who doesnt value it for its exchange value for consumers, but as a tool of control, and surveillance of a disturbed population. thats where they find its value. this is why elites and governments the world over that represent them, are implicating it in the various ways they are. policing, and military usage being prime examples.
they want us to fund and build the infrastructure through our labours, building our future prison, judge, jury, executioner, all in one. while saying its for our safety and advancement.
the truth is, they know the gravy train of neoliberalism, capitalism, and consumerism. is coming to a close.
what remains is damage control, and mitigation of risk.
like you stated human empathy creates another unavoidable risk, and so it is an issue that must be tackled by the ruling class. like they always have.
the creation of the internet, an originally military technology, implemented as public infrastructure served as the initial catalyst and mainline for the future tools they would use to manipulate the global population. now we see those results manifest. rising fascism, a term coined by a man who said it might be more aptly named "corporatism" a system of governance where the wealthy corporatists control the government, and on their behalf, they control the population.
now we have the creation of AI which automates that process further. and they are clawing for it all over the world, disregarding public outcry, and creating projects that funnel trillions of tax payer dollars to build the new systems of control.
if the internet was the nervousystem, AI is the brain that dictates the flow of signals to its extremeties. flawed as it is from the point of view of a consumer and average human. specifically in terms of its daily use cases and overall consumption. not only of money, but water, and energy.
we already see it causing mass psychosis and the relative ease it has in manipulating information and general ideology amongst the masses.
placation, bread and circus, and direct control of military assets that have no ability to feel anything. drones, missiles, surveillance cameras, smart phones, autonomous machines of every kind. virtually every military or police force of merit is implementing these technologies.
it is not a cohesive movement by the elites, but a common sense awakening of multiple tribes of elites, that know this is the new way to maintain their stations.
Gaza is an example of modern genocide, a showcase of these technologies not just on the battlefield, but their outward ability to control emotions and the narrative surrounding it as a whole across all connective technologies. it also shows the world powers that it is possible to get away with genocide if the message is spun or stifled properly, depending on the user profile of the outward observer. it is considered a "debatable topic" in some circles still.
what we are witnessing is the soft crashing of the old world ideals. the rules no longer apply, and its debtable if they ever did to begin with. depending on your economic position in the hierarchy. the epstein files also showcased this differential treatment and the lengths the elite are willing to go to control us, and eachother.
the collapse will be long and sustained, but inevitable. the current economic form is not built to withstand this level of technological shift while sustaining a full and growing population. and neither is the environement.
not every elite agrees on how the new world should look, but they all agree that they have the right to witness it moreso than the people the parasitize.
the means of which they will choose to chase their future maintenance are always up for debate. but the overall consensus is that technology evolves to produce more with less. its just that now the produce is no longer commodity based. it produces, control, surveillance, and the maintenance of power and influence. more control, minus the human element. or at least a mass reduction in the variatibility of the human element.
even if they intended to not act towards a mass reduction in the global population, it is now a mathematical certainty that they believe is already beyond their control.
they are simply insuring their survival, and lifestyle, in the face of an inevitable situation, which just so happens to present a profitable biproduct. the reduction of competition. in all its forms.
in the meantime they will manufacture consent.
it is now a mathematical certainty that they believe is already beyond their control.
Exactly, and this logic is at the heart of why they will always fail. Mathematical certainties are great predictors of a lot of things, including large scale human behavior. However, they're pretty notoriously shitty predictors of individual human behavior (spontaneity and the internal drive towards freedom), which then always carries with it a snowball effect.
rising fascism, a term coined by a man who said it might be more aptly named “corporatism” a system of governance where the wealthy corporatists control the government, and on their behalf, they control the population.
Also, is this from Friendly Fascism? If not, definitely another highly recommended book that seemed to predict much of America circa 2026 back in the 80s.
Even back then, the author saw the problems we would be facing but he also knew the obvious solution. It's exactly what the oligarchs fear most: regulations and consequences for corporations and reinforcing democracy to remove power from the faceless corporations run by oligarchs.
I don't disagree with you at all on how the elites view this. I also agree that society will definitely be shifting, but I don't believe that shift will be going according to their plan.
The internet is actually a perfect example of human spontaneity interfering with the intended outcomes of the elite. Even if you consider it a weakness of humanity and a technological tool meant to spy on people (which it definitely does quite successfully), it's also become a technological tool used by society to subvert authority and work together to find ways around the roadblocks authorities put up to control the masses.
The entire reason I'm talking to you on Lemmy is because I left Reddit. The elites buy up all forms of popular social media and communications with the belief that once they control a monopoly, people will have no other choice but to use whatever they offer (elimination of competition).
But this strategy also assumes all competition will be relying on the same incentives that drive their own decision making. However, if even a slightly better alternative becomes available, people will flock to it. That's how a free market is supposed to work, and how it would work if not for oligarchs. This is also why oligarchs hate competition and love heirarchies that protect their monopolies and oligopolies from competition.
Over time, the spontaneity of humans and their drive to be free, makes the technology the elite are dependent on for maintaining their control, essentially obsolete. They will then attempt to purchase and control whatever new technology has replaced the old technology (they're investors, not inventors) but the drive to be free will always lead to some other work around. Necessity is the mother of invention.
The elite's dependency on algorithms to predict human behavior is definitely useful for their own ends in terms of wealth hoarding, but eventually the one track mindedness of the elites traps them in their own endless cycle of digging a new hole to fill an old one. Without regulations and reform to rein them in, we're all stuck living in this endless cycle with them.
This is certainly unsustainable, but again, the blame for the unsustainability lies entirely with the paranoia and pathological drive of the elites who attempt to alleviate their own anxieties by trying to control everyone else.
Life really doesn't have to be this way, but oligarchs are so isolated from the rest of society, they believe this is normal. They're also narcissistic enough to believe that they were born with almost supernatural abilities and traits that destined them to rule over everyone else. Rather than viewing their own privileges and circumstances as providing them with an unbalanced advantage due to social inequality, they convince themselves it's evidence of genetic superiority.
The pathology that they view as a positive attribute, is essentially a form of self destruction. As long as society allows them to keep repeating the same (regulation and consequence free) behavior, they will eventually destroy the entire planet (including themselves) in their never ending cycle of digging new holes, rather than just taking a breath and giving therapy a go.
The genocide in Gaza is a great example of the intention of the oligarchs to control. They have successfully controlled the narrative for some time, and by buying up most major news outlets, they continue to have a very unbalanced advantage. However, even that control has begun to slip due to work arounds in communication, and push back from the masses.
No matter how many atrocities they commit, it never makes them look stronger, it just makes them look less human. They will eventually face backlash and a weakening of their grip on power because despite their alleged obsession with natural order, they fail to see that what they want to create is at odds with the nature of humanity.
They blame this backlash on democracy rather than a fault with themselves, because they're only capable of understanding internally motivated predictions, and completely incapable of any self reflection of their place within a larger world that they cannot control.
You should definitely check out Ellul's Technological Society if you get a chance. He actually touches on corporations too and Marx. Mainly in terms of Marx's predictions that automation of technology would be a helpful benefit to the working class. That wasn't necessarily an incorrect prediction, however, clearly when it's exploited by the wealthy and viewed as simply a replacement for workers, it just becomes a new hole.
kagi > vindicated conspiracies yielded this: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Understanding_Misbelief/Conspiracy_Theories_That_Turned_Out_to_Be_True
The list needs updating.
Also needs other conspiracies from around the world, not just the ones perpetrated be the US government.
