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Highschool setting.

Cute mascot character that makes perverted jokes about the underage characters.

The super intelligent and capable rival character that is Machiavellian and treats the other characters like garbage but is still treated with respect and awe by the other characters because they're so smart and capable.

The characters are constantly repeating themselves and stating the obvious.

The deaths are so twisted like the Joker.

Transphobia.

"Women just don't understand male friendship!"

I don't like the artstyle. There's something "2010s ahegao hoodie" about it.

Anyway, this rant is 16 years late but I just wanted an excuse to talk about anime tropes that I hate.

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[–] RedLink@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

I learned Japanese and I hate anime. My biggest gripe about anime is the absolute awful way women are treated in most of them. Like yeah tons of fanservice in western stuff but I hate the male gazey way they go about it. There are ways of doing fan service without just having constant groping and tit or figure shots. In most anime the women characters barley have a personality or any skills, even if they do they are often shunted to the side to make way for all the men characters in spite of their proficiency. Its like im watching a show made from 50's America posters. "Back to the kitchen woman" type shit. holy fucking shit its so bad and so constant. Anime in the early 90's/late 80's and modern anime are better at it SOMETIMES.

An anime thats really good about it is 薬屋のひとりごと (Apothecary diaries). Women are the main characters of that show and them being pushed off or ignored is part of the hardships that they face. Women are allowed to be beautiful and cute and attractive without it being the entirety of their character and each introduction of them just close up shots of their tits in a new revealing outfit.

Anime is an immensely hard watch for me and i've taken to literally RESEARCHING FEMINIST ARTICLES IN JAPANESE to find ones that treat women halfway decent. Even then they can be pretty bad because of how serious the feminist movement in japan is seen. Women trying to fight for the right to keep their name in marriage being seen as a ridiculous demand by EVEN WOMEN IN POLITICS bghgbgbhg.

少女革命ウテナ (Revolutionary girl Utena) is another good one that treats its women with respect while breaking expectations placed on them. カウボーイビバップ (Cowboy beepop) is mostly good at its portrayals, even having a character with a complicated relationship with her gender.

I've watched so many anime because of my friends being weebs and also because of my Japanese studies. I promise if you have a favorite anime you think is exempt chances are you're forgetting all the sucky moments. One of my friends tried to show me 3 anime they thought were clear only for them not to be, and one to be the worst I'd seen in AWHILE..

Tl;DR Anime generally treats women horribly and its extremely hard to watch or enjoy

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 4 points 15 hours ago

I've only seen the anime, it was interesting if you're really desperate for things-like-squid-game (I'm not!), but otherwise I consider it mid.

[–] Commie_Chameleon@hexbear.net 17 points 20 hours ago

Played through it forever ago and had to force myself to finish it, then was rewarded with an endgame where you collect all the characters’ panties. disgost

Like they’re all high school coded fuck right off

[–] Kefla@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the underage characters.

Technically they're not underage, which I only bring up because it's an extremely silly twist that they're all actually multiple years older than they think they are. Somehow these teenagers haven't noticed years of growth

[–] Speaker@hexbear.net 2 points 12 hours ago

This is the first anime defense that starts with "Technically they're not underage" but doesn't end in the obvious way. How novel. 😄

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 16 points 23 hours ago

Oh right, I forgot.

[–] SmithrunHills@hexbear.net 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget the rampant elitism that just hits you like a hammer the moment any kind of discussion on class is brought up!

The whole Reserve Course plot point feels like they wanted to have some kind of message on classism that damn near straight up comes across as elitist apologia due to the way it never got any kind of meaningful resolution in either of the times it came up throughout the series. And then there's the DR3 anime where this exact problem feels like it was magnified a hundredfold. But to be fair, practically most forms of fiction across multiple types of media have this exact problem, some worse than others

[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 8 points 21 hours ago

When i played through the first game when they introduce the students as "ultimates" i thought it was going for a "talent doesn't make you objectively superior than anyone else" , but the games turns out to be HOPE HOPE HOPE instead. The third game truth theme is at least tied to the game being a whodunit murder mystery but still.

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago (9 children)

On that note is there a single anime that's not misogynistic or at the very least weird about women? I'm not sure I've seen such a thing.

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 2 points 12 hours ago

Toradora! and Rec. Both seemly present as generic high school and office romantic comedies (respectively) but that belies their great characterization as the MCs navigate their deepening relationships.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Ranma 1/2 maybe? It plays with gender a lot but it helps that it was written/drawn by a woman, so the "harem trope" is portrayed more as a running gag than as wish fulfillment and the "waifus/husbandos" are more like a rotating cast of antagonists.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 25 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm gonna go through things I remember offhand, mostly recent-ish stuff that's still fresh in my memory.

Frieren - this should be well known enough to not need a blurb.

Secrets of the Silent Witch - fairly light and fluffy formulaic shoujo slop, but inoffensive and sort of charming.

BOFURI - no-stakes SAO with a primarily female cast and no weird stuff at all, just the protagonist accidentally min-maxing a terribly balanced VRMMO and then stumbling into every overpowered item and skill synergy possible. Empty, fluffy, completely inoffensive slop.

Call of the Night - despite what the cover art would suggest, this is a very good series that grapples with alienation, depression, and to some extent gender and sexuality, with a more or less ace protagonist trying to become a vampire by falling in love with a depressed alcoholic gremlin of a vampire who's been mostly sitting on the floor of her unfurnished apartment drinking and playing the same PS1 games for more than 20 years. The other vampires are also all complex, deeply broken people alienated from society. There's even a crossdressing bisexual femboy character who is actually just sort of there and treated normally instead of being treated as a gag or fetish material. I can vouch for the first season and most of the second, but I haven't actually finished the second season nor have I read the manga yet. Also has an absolutely amazing OP and ED.

May I Ask For One Final Thing - villainess genre subversion vaguely riffing on Alice in Wonderland but mostly just being a story about a terrifyingly powerful ball of repressed rage kicking the shit out of all the ontologically evil slaving aristocrats she's been forced to not kick the shit out of, after being given official sanction to just go wild and kick the shit out of all of them by the crown prince.

A Wild Last Boss Appeared! - this is genderbending isekai slop, but is actually pretty clever isekai slop that draws on and uses the way the world and its history was something both shaped by the protagonist (and other players) but also that's its own distinct thing that exists in a way that's forcibly trying to reconcile the half-assed lore and player stories with how a world would actually have to work to make those things happen and all the bits that would have had to have happened offscreen. I read several of the LNs and it never got gross or weird from what I remember.

Sakamoto Days - story about a former assassin who retired after his wife forced him to stop killing people. It's extremely creative and silly, and I can't remember anything gross and objectionable happening in either season. Great OPs and EDs on both seasons too.

Nokotan - funny deer show.

ZOM100 - phenomenal pro-social zombie apocalypse story about a burnt out office worker reveling in the end of the world because it means he doesn't have to go to work anymore, and setting out to do everything he always wanted to but never had the time to before it's too late. If that sounds nihilistic and toxic, making the "pro-social" comment I led with seem out of place: the story would agree with that criticism and it repeatedly interrogates the premise in an almost dialectical way to reorient it into a form that's more responsible and centers the human element and what experiences mean to people to arrive at a healthier place. It's also incredibly stylish and fantastically animated. It is kind of riffing on schlocky grindhouse aesthetics, but I don't remember it ever being particularly gross about it the way some things are.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

BOFURI

Bofuri DEEZ NUTZV hahahhh gottem

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 9 points 18 hours ago

I say that literally every time I remember it exists lmao.

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Dungeon Meshi

Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood

Anything by Ghibli

But yes, there is a huge problem with that in anime. It's very unfortunate because there is good in there, it just gets overshadowed by the "let's make gooner slop for a quick buck" studios

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 16 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Ghibli can get super misogynist. The main character in Porco Rosso is openly and proudly misogynist and even the victims of his misogyny agree with him in his misogynist views, and almost every studio ghibli movie revels in traditional gender roles.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 16 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Don't people call Porco out on his misogyny constantly in that movie? I think the only one who agrees is the yank who wants to marry a child.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 22 hours ago

yank who wants to marry a child.

surprised-pika

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

He is "called out" once by the mechanic girl, who then immediately concedes to his misogyny.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 12 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe the message of the movie is that Italians will agree with a literal chauvinist pig.

*Except the part where he says he doesn't like fascism.

[–] Speaker@hexbear.net 1 points 12 hours ago

"Even socially repugnant pig men hate fascists, what's your problem?" is my new go-to jab for right-wing anime enjoyers.

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 14 points 21 hours ago

Surprised it hasn't been mentioned, but Bocchi The Rock.

[–] grym@hexbear.net 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken!

[–] graymess@hexbear.net 9 points 18 hours ago

This show is wonderful. Everything that can be good about anime.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SerialExperimentsGay@hexbear.net 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
  • checks out the yuri

  • it's an endless slow burn, one mindmeltingly intimate scene where they cuddle, then the autistic butch turns into cyber jesus and her crush marries a dude

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SerialExperimentsGay@hexbear.net 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That's actually Serial Experiments Lain lmao

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 2 points 14 hours ago
[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 13 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

If I remember ACCA-13 and mushi-shi are my go-to standard for Japanese stuff. I haven't really touched Japanese media for about half a decade if not more so I'm fairly out of touch with it. Like the last thing I remember reading when it was just starting to be published was saihate no paladin, and that recently had its own show published.

I mean shit, I read solo leveling years back and that recently got a show, I'm afraid the industry will start burning through Korean manhwas like a wildfire in a few years and I'll be left almost the same as I am with Japanese stuff.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

saihate no paladin

ugh I want more, can you believe the show ends before he even kisses his elf boyfriend

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 4 points 17 hours ago

I wouldn't know, I was reading the comics when they were first coming out. I generally moved away from Japanese media before the first major arc finished.

[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 6 points 20 hours ago

JJK maybe? Nobara and any other female characters other than Maki from what I've heard got sidelined heavily at the later chapters.

From what I've seen at least Maki side plot is all about destroying a patriarchal clan so its prob not WEIRD about women, I only watch/know the hype moments and aura clips so perhaps theres some weird fanservice bullshit going on in the manga.

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 16 points 23 hours ago
[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

I've heard it called 'Reddit the Anime' more than once

[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 7 points 21 hours ago

I prefer the Eden Garden fangame at least 99% of the anime tropes problems are gone.

To be honest if Dangaronpa didn't have voice acting during trials it would be probably wont have as big fanbase as it has now. Theres plenty of better "whodunit" detective VNs like Ace Attorney.

lemmygrad dragonpara ptsd

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I heard people talkabout/hype it over the years and I never bothered with it for the same reasons.

[–] OffSeasonPrincess@hexbear.net 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Im always surprised danganronpa seems to have relatively many trans fans with the blatant transphobia

[–] SmithrunHills@hexbear.net 8 points 22 hours ago

Makes about as much sense as Persona (especially 5) having progressive fans.