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Well, to be honest, there’s no reason to waste your breath asking to end it until that election comes up this November. And hopefully we can flip Senate and house.

It's because this message isn't for the Dem base, it's for the Republican base. They stand to lose more votes than Dems have to gain with an opposition message. That's where the momentum is right now.

The Democrats have been controlled opposition at best. After Bernie's fixed primary, then Kamala's fixed primary, Democrat voters just think it was an accident. It wasn't they failed intentionally to unleash the Epstein war machine.

The uniparty has never been less deniable.

The only way these factions maintain control over the U.S. government is through maintaining “full spectrum dominance”. Once that ends, the turmoil turns inward and the country rips itself apart.

Iran is the lynchpin.

The DNC is a Zioninst Supremacist organization with primary mandate to ensure Zionist first rule over the US. "Donor pressure" to not endorse Mamdami, or Chuck Schumer's "my job is to gaslight the left into supporting Israel", or every Presidential candidate since Carter having Zionist absolutist devotion is simple proof of bipartisan subjugation to Israel's interests. DNC may well have preferred Trump in last election. They only solicited money instead of volunteers to help turnout. Even Bernie calling for a big tent party between genocidal Zionist supremacists and the genocide-concerned is an incoherent DNC first political position. Zionist/CIA controlled colonies are even weaker than DNC in opposing US/Zionist empire.

Poor relations with Iran, with only practical objective of destroying Iran rather than reforming it or befriending it, is part of US's 45 year greater Israel project. The Great Satan is only a Satan because it is a pure demonic asshole towards Iran and any group that has received support from Iran, and extreme unchallenged propaganda from US, includes that the Lebanese barracks bombing was done by a Lebanese group while US ships were shelling Lebanon.

The bipartisan/media warmongering in service of Israel means no mainstream voice condemning Israel's supremacist murderous/genocidal objectives. Only criticism of process and results is allowed, to avoid contemplating the fundamental evil of the US, its Zionist subservience, and the US's impending collapse.

The path to saving the US through UBI, and liquid democracy, is a military coup, but long term political platform of exterminating Zionazi influence over the US by delegitimizing politicians with Zionist views, and zeroing out financially all oligarchy supporting them. Nationalizing oil and weapons and media not out of a Marxist/DEI motive, but from an anti-treason perspective.

Still, the process of achieving maximum evil (complete destruction of Iran instead of any reform/relations to make Iran more successful) had the significant miscalculation in assassinating Ayatolah (very old and ill), and school bombing (no DNC criticism of even this), to unite Iranians behind IRGC, even if IRGC was still going to mount same defense, to allow same destruction level. "Surprise attack" strategy was categorically absurd and increases certainty of failure. Begging allies for help 2 weeks after start is an impeachable offense of failure of duty to Zionist ambitions. Process needed to be a long propaganda and bribery campaign targeting axis of demonism to prepare for a united collapse and failure.

Because not only the donors but a big part of the Dem's base, even here on lemmy that is an outlier, are pro-war.

Dems are in Israel's pocket as well.

The dems and the republicans are not the same party. But when it comes to American imperialism, they are both on the same side. Democrats and republicans are not the same. Regarding the imperialism, see for example how Biden and Obama handled Israel (60B in military aid). The democrats and republicans are not the same. See also Kamala Harris' DNC speech where she promised she would ensure America has the most lethal fighting force in the world. Anyone who thinks the democrats are the peace party is a fool. The two parties are not the same though, there is more to policy than foreign policy.

Inb4 "Oh so you think they're the same?"

Legally, the Dems hands are tied so all they can do is chirp. Regardless, the US is a two-headed beast and currently the beast is wearing it's republican face.

Because they're with Trump, they're just acting as if not

Saying he has "no plan" is more effective because it attacks his self image.

Democrats calling to end the war would just be ignored.

Democrats say he has no plan because at a fundamental level, leadership supports most of the policies that Trump pursues.

Its not a question of the relevancy of Democrats or Trump's ego: Its that both parties accept and operate to support the same corporate, zionist, fascist donor base.

Its why you weren't permitted an anti-genocide candidate in 2024: Because it wasn't in the donor classes interests. Its why they convinced Democrats to hold onto Biden as a candidate long as they did. Its party of why Harris was effectively "selected" as the nominee instead of running a real primary (for example, as Jon Stewart had suggested). Its why Harris ran on a campaign of "Nothing would fundamentally change", while as an administration, having sold out both progressives and the BLM movement as a voting block in the period of 2021-2024. Democratic voters have been voting against their own interests, just like Republican voters, for decades.

There is no future or path to a better future through the traditional pathways to power in the Democratic party as it currently exists. Its structurally not possible. And this inability to adjust to an electorate with significantly different priorities than those who control power within the party is a constant headwind: By constantly being on the wrong sides of issues, like they are today, Democrats damage their ability to win elections.

For leadership, this isn't a problem: They still get the policies they desire. For the electorate, or people running for office who want to change the Democratic party to one people actually want to vote for, this is a huge problem.

This is weak. The Dems have no control over what the Commander in Chief does. Nobody cares what their war plans are.

I agree that many Dems have weak values, though.

Can't get around the paywall, but they're doing that thing where they pretend Schumer/Jefferies are "the Democrats" again.

Schumer and Jefferies will never go against Israel.

But they're the most loyal out of current Dems, not the norm

Because Netanyahu or his AI clone have Jeffery's original tapes of Donica

Five letters. Starts with AI. Isn’t an LLM.

Now Trump is even begging former allies to help USA in the Hormuz strait. Maybe he should have thought of that, before threatening to invade allied nations, and starting trade wars with everybody, and threatening to abandon NATO, and completely fail to help Ukraine against Russia that is a common enemy to Europe and USA, but not to Trump because Trump is somehow compromised and a traitor to USA and democracy.

To say Trump has no plan is to put it mildly. Trump had a plan originally, and that plan is so simplistic only a child could conceive it.

The plan was that Iran should surrender or collapse quickly!

Yes that's right, that was the entire plan! As stupid as that sounds. And when that didn't happen, they were completely unprepared for anything else. Trump had the typical simple minded bully mentality, to sucker-punch Iran, with the expectation that they would give in immediately.

Instead we are seeing Trump once again dramatically increasing the speed of the demise of the American empire, just as he did with the above mentioned behavior, threatening allies and waging trade wars against everybody.

As Trump stated: "I guess our relations aren't what they used to be."

Your goddam right they aren't. And just to be clear to the Americans, this is not just about Trump, it's the entire administration. And the fact that the American population elected Trump twice, means we don't trust the population either anymore.

To say Trump should end the war does nothing. At least not unless he is given some sort of out where he can save face. But that does not appear to be available that I can see. So as a result, he may just as likely try to put boots on the ground. And if he does that, he will 100% sure only embarrass himself and USA further. Because Iran is way way more difficult than Afghanistan, In Afghanistan there was a government somewhat in power that supported the allied forces. AND there were actually allied forces, which there won't be in Iran. And finally Iran is a 10 times harder nut to crack, because it has more than twice the population and area, and it has way better organized and equipped troops for guerrilla war. With more an better places to hide.

I mean, what does it look like to "end the war". Even if they voted to end it, you can't unilaterally stop it, the time to stop it was before Trump started the war, now it can only end through a deal with Iran.

This is one of the more profoundly well-put summaries I've ever read on the Internet.

Maybe because we hate Iran just as much as the right