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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Personally, I'm excited to see what kind of biomes end up emerging on a melting/melted Antartica.

Well ok, even I'm not pessimistic enough to think I'll live to see that, in a way that its dramatically different than it is now, but hey, its like uh... a subbranch of speculative evolution, sorta.

Maybe in a 100-200 years we have enough glacial loss and icemelt that West Antarctica might have parts where actual soil is regularly facing the sun.

I think this is a 'what if all the ice was gone' map:

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 14 points 6 days ago (4 children)

How exactly were the names "East Antarctica" and "West Antarctica" in that map decided? What does "East" and "West" mean at the South Pole?

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I googled it: map of antarctica with meridian lines labelled

Image Source: Wikipedia

Anything between lines of longitude 0° - 180° (0° is britain GMT, 180° is opposite side of earth) is EAST.

Anything between 180° to 0 (you can think of as 360°) is WEST.

Thus you have a western hemisphere, which i guess is just tthe americas and british Isles, and an eastern hemisphere, which i guess is most of afroeurasia and australia. This is just about the only way it could've worked, but as for where 0 and 180 went, it's just arbitrary.

I would've defined the Levant as the boundary between east and west hemisphere, instead.


Fun FactEastern Antarctica's ice sheet is older and more well developed than western antarctica. It will probably take longer to melt or collapse than the western half.

Source: Discovering Antarctica

Collapsible bonus image + source

map of antarctica

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-Antarctic-drainage-system-comprising-the-West-Antarctic-WA-ice-sheet-the-East_fig1_338109662

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unless you stand perfectly at the south pr perfectly at the north point of either pole, there will always be an east and a west.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes - but you can choose any point to stand on. So all arbitrary separations in to "East" and "West" are equally valid.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 points 6 days ago

We shall have the compass decide, good sir! We are but mere mortals!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

you're thinking geographic west and east. what other definitions exist for west and east?

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Under the US’s political sphere of influence vs China’s?

whose map is this? does the chinese map use different words?

[–] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Same as now. European influence.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 days ago

Probably 100% cow pastures.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago

Personally I am not able to get excited about the prospect, with the knowledge that it happens on the back of millions of species going extinct all over the globe.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 days ago

Don't Panic

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The killing off of the majority of the human race is an unrequited plus in my book!

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is one of those beliefs that can lead to a slippery slope. Yes, from an empirical perspective it needs to happen. But are we okay with how it’s likely to happen? Because the path we’re on has the honest and humble proletariat taking the brunt of the blow while the elite lap up the freshly available assets.

Any attempt to alter that trajectory will probably lead to the same tribalistic and knee-jerk violence that breeds authoritarianism and racism and will not further the progressive cause of coexistence.

So no matter what happens, we’ll likely end up in the same place a few hundred years later.

Or maybe I’m wrong?

[–] RykardNixon@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You’re not wrong. Save for a few thousand over a few hundred

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

probably means the dragon tree, dracaena species, but thats in madagascar and socatra mostly

[–] joostjakob@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And the Canary islands too. I wonder if there's precedent from them going extinct in mainland Africa and the naturally returning

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago

seems like dracaena species is native to africa, multiple ones. the dragon blood tree is unique to socatra and parts of SA.

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago
[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"Most of us" is not "all of us". Humanity will survive and the survivors will adapt.

Nothing but positivity here.

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Always the poor, disabled, marginalised, chronically ill, non first world, will be hit the hardest and die at the highest rates.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My professional advice is to not be any of those things when shit hits the fan.

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 28 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Tries to wish lifelong chronic illness away

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

have you tried not being sad?

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Damn it how could I forget that 🤦. I’m now magically cured. Thanks ;)

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Have tried being a millionair? That seems to make problems go away quite easily.

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 4 points 6 days ago

Yeah I would still be ill but it would be “oh that sucks and I can afford it” not “my survival is constantly on the line”.

[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I prefer being a millionearth since I walk to places.

[–] Draconic_NEO@mander.xyz 1 points 5 days ago

Those dumbasses build their houses right on the beach, they will ultimately be hit very hard by climate change.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

you know what has been really funny all my life. laughing at the rich people in the hospital.

oh wait, i'm not that much of a dick. money doesn't keep them from being sick, strangely enough.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Money does buy access to a lot better treatments, though.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

sometimes yes sometimes no. sometimes they throw amazing treatments at you for free if you are willing to be in a trial and money can't get you into those. trust me, i have tried to bribe my way into a few with money i didn't have, and once the best connections in the world couldn't get me in

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My professional advice is that i expect someone who is involved in environmental prepper groups would be the most protected from climate catastrophe/have the best access to protection when shit hits the fan.

Controversial opinion: I also don't think shit will hit the fan too bad except for certain countries. But the USA, or parts of it, might be one of those countries. And a lot of nations are at risk.

So maybe neither of these things are whitepilling depending on what your illness is and where you live. But i tried

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 1 points 6 days ago

Hard to be in an environmental prepper group if you’re too disabled/chronically ill to leave your bed haha. I’ve just accepted if shit really hits the fan I’m dying.

[–] morto@piefed.social 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

When it comes to climate change I'm not sure. We on the poorer side of the world already live in a constant crisis and adaptation and drastically changing our way to live might not hit us as hard as for people in first world countries who are used to a high dependence on industry and globalization. In fact, we're already slowly adapting without most people even noticing.

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

100% but what you neglect to mention is the poorer world already has far higher mortality rates. This will only make it worse.

[–] morto@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago

That's true :(

[–] joostjakob@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I tend to agree that developped countries tend to underestimate the fragility of their systems. But then there still are simple facts like if you spend 10% of your income on food, you can afford significant food price hikes. If you spend 70% of income on food, then a small rise is already lethal.

[–] morto@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

True, but on the other hand, if international trade diminishes, we're on the food production side. The places who depend on imports will be hit much harder.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

we also tend to have some sort of stockpiles, like the fucking american cheese reserve

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The majority of other species wont survive or adapt though. And all because of something we caused. It's not only humans sharing this Earth, even though a lot of us sure acts as if that is the case.

[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

That’s if we survive WWIII, disease, and climate change.

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