Just so everyone knows, they did lead a peaceful march a few years back and the Israelis shot thousands and thousands of them.
And Israel lost no legitimacy over it, the international media either treated it as business like usual, those rowdy middle easterners just failing to get along, or straight up told Palestinians that they had no right to protest like that and that every single civilian was actually either a willing or stupid human shield for cloaked hamas agents, there to attack the IDF.
The first headline I came across about this was something along the lines of "here's how the Palestine situation helps Putin"
You beat me to it. Israel murdered protesters in cold blood and faced no consequences
These doorknobs don't care
They somehow think they'll be the ones to come up with a workable solution for this which doesn't involve violence, while some of them even acknowledge that the US establishment is completely backing Israel and completely fine with Palestine being wiped out of existence
Head empty
holy fuck
Yeah. Hard as tungsten.
peaceful march
They tried that, Israel mowed them down en masse, it didn't lose an ounce of legitimacy in the eyes of
I wonder if there is some kind of socio-economic forces that are the driving reasons behind the world hegemon supporting the fascist state of isn'treal?
The Palestinians should offer themselves to the butcher's knife. They should throw themselves into the sea from cliffs. It would arouse the world and the people of Israel.
Gandhi, twitter, 2023
Beat me to it. Easy to say other people should just lay down and die I guess.
he meant himself/Indians as well -- he was that idealistic and had that poor of a understanding of why his protests worked in India. MLK was all around the much better political leader, down to reassessing his view on nonviolence.
For context, here’s the original quote:
An actual Holocaust reference
Hitler killed five million [sic] Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.....It would have aroused the world and the people of Germany.... As it is they succumbed anyway in their millions.
— Mahatma Gandhi, June 1946
Yes, imagine...
Although this year’s event passed by without any violence, Land Day in Gaza in past years has erupted in clashes at the border fence with Israel
In 2018, Palestinians in Gaza used the day to begin a series of mass protests dubbed the Great March of Return, which lasted two years.
The protests saw major bloodshed with more than 260 Palestinians killed, mostly by Israeli sniper fire.
Nearly 7,000 others were shot and wounded, according to Gaza’s health ministry.
Also, post the link you coward!
unarmed children getting hit from 300 meters. IOF snipers were having competitions to see how many Palestinian knees they could destroy, just intentionally maiming people
'42 Knees in One Day': Israeli Snipers Open Up About Shooting Gaza Protesters
EDIT: replaced paywalled Haaretz with archive link
Quick question what the actual fuck
they're fascists. it's what they do, it's why they deserve to die
peaceful march
yes, Israel would respond violently
I knew that the IDF has a pre-set kill limit. Knowing that, I sent waves and waves of unarmed women and children at the Israelis until they exceeded their limit and shut down.
If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards
Checkmate
but fewer would die
fewer Israelis, maybe
THEY ALREADY DID THAT YOU FUCKING MORON
They got shot, killed and injured by the IDF
Anyway slava palestine, slava to the martyrs
“Just line up against the mass graves so the fascists can kill you easily” is quite the take from libs
Imagine thinking liberals would care about 100,000 civilians being massacred if they fail the test
I still can't believe I've seen this exact conversation play on this site of all places.
I hope there was a swift for that
They'd be cut down like field mice under a roto tiller, but at least it would do nothing
It would do something. The white moderates get there peace in place of having to witness justice.
There is nothing more privileged than these clowns who think wars can be won peacefully.
They already tried that in 2018 and it got them shot by israelis. Also didnt israel killed their own pm (who himself is still fucking brutal and did war crimes) who tried some sort of compromise that heavily favors israel?
Even if by some magic they didn't get shot doing their nonviolent march, the Israelis don't fucking care, and you are never never going to make them.
Go talk to them, they literally couldn't care less.
"oh no, not our legitimacy!"
- some Israeli somewhere, I'm sure
Do libs live in the real world?
They get their ideas and their personality templates from The West Wing and related shows.
Just march through the sniper fire because you're invincible climb the fence because destroying property is bad, and walk past the tanks, don't worry about them.
That will surely delegitimise Israel. It's not like their snipers have been shooting people nowhere near the fence just for fun for literally years with this fucking lib not even caring is it?
A literal judas goat
Getting real tired of all these people living in comfy bubbles of wine and Netflix having opinions
And at the end of the peaceful march the hundreds of thousands of palestinians would vote
Real cosmic justice would be the Mossad hunting this guy down for agreeing with the breaking down of the fence.
this poster is a child
Last time I saw someone say this in a Hexbear comment I went and checked, and the poster was in fact 16 years old.
This time I checked, the poster is an editor for Jacobin and a grown ass man.
social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism
Jacobin to the right of DSA lmao
Liberals solution for the Palestinians they all claim to support is literally just "lay down and take it"
Gosh it's too bad that didn't happpen in 2018 or anything.
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It's the dunk tank.
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