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[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The true metric would be the percentage of former Trump voters who would change their vote next time. What I see a lot of is people who disapprove, but still could never conceive of voting differently. American politics is kind of like sports teams fans - you pick a team and stick with it, no matter what changes occur.

[–] eyesaremosaics@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Well one of the minor advantages of low voter turnouts is if people are disappointed by their "team" then they don't bother voting, which can change the result, especially when the other side is livid and highly motivated to get out to vote

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

This only works for one election. Conservatives have short memories and would vote the same bastard who made their lives miserable the first time back into office 4 years later. That's not an improvement, that's just a temporary reprieve from the systemic deconstruction of our government's purpose to help the general populace.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

That is a good point. In years past, there has usually been one side quite called to action. Lately, I find that both sides seem disenfranchised - I find it really hard to predict what the midterm turnout will be since it feels like there are so many voters on all ends of the spectrum who want to abstain (assuming the election is fairly administered, which is quite an assumption these days)

[–] HeChomk@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago

He's "Fuhrerious"...

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 56 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

No matter how low it goes I'll never understand how it isn't zero. (As much as it should be zero, it unfortunately never will be. Well over a hundreds of years from now, I imagine right-wingers will romanticize Trump the same way they romanticize Reagan and the Civil War and... you know... Hitler.)

[–] noahm@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Where I live, there are still Trump and MAGA flags all over the place. None have come down over the past year, and many are replaced with new ones as they fade. Nothing Trump has done has put a dent in his support among his most vocal supporters. This is further reflected in the campaigning among the GOP candidates in the recent primary election for the state governor’s position, where they’re basically in a competition to prove that they’re more like Trump than any of the other choices. It goes as far as one using “Fight Like Hell” (remember that one?) as a campaign slogan.

There’s no hope for some people.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

This is what baffles me the most - the effects of Trumps regime aren't abstract - no, they are the very opposite, very tangible, to be felt by literally anyone. Like the most obvious thing should be the increase in gas prices, followed by the increase in groceries. Do those people have a) so much money that they simply don't care or b) don't have the mental capacity that all of this is directly because of Trump? And what kinda jobs do those people have that they are not affected by the mass layoffs and hiring freezes?

[–] SynAcker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Anytime something bad happens, they just say it's because of some policy Biden did. It's a simple copout that works for them. And if it's not Bidens's fault? Then it's immigrants. Or poor people. Or trans people. Or Muslims.. And on and on the cycle goes.

[–] noahm@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I agree that it’s not rational. I think it depends a lot on selective memory and compartmentalization. A recent comment on a local news story exemplifies this. Somebody claimed that gas prices being down from their post-Iran-attack peak proves (proves!) that Trump was right again. But they ignore several key facts, like prices are still higher than they were before the war, they’re still higher than they were at the end of the Biden presidency, and that the underlying issues exposed by the war have not been resolved and gas prices may still rise.

[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Evangelical Christians, mostly.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve asked them. Generally they turn it into a comparison of Biden, Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton, or Obama. Or, rather, they turn it into the right-wing news outlets distorted funhouse mirror versions of those rivals. They may see that trump is bad, but in their eyes he’s not as bad as those “villains.”

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, try explaining to them that Obama deported more people than Trump's first term. They refuse to believe it regardless of the evidence you can provide. They just can't accept that the Southern border wasn't just completely open at that time.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 33 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You need to understand that huge amounts of people don't tune in to anything. And the methods to reach them are well dialed in by whoever reaches them.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, keep in mind all the retired old fucks who watch literally nothing but fox on their channel tv

[–] Atom@lemmy.world 88 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

A new Emerson College Polling national survey finds President Donald Trump holds a 39% job approval rating

Same 39% "new low" he's been at for the better part of a decade now

[–] errer@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, then how is it possible that I've seen this exact headline, and dug in to find this exact 39% figure, dozens of times since 2016?

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

So the way it works is that they measure approval. They ask 100 people if they approve of him. 39 say they approve, 40 say they disapprove and 21 say they don't care. They remove the people that said they don't care and do the difference between people that approve and people that disapprove which is -1 so they report that his net approval rating is -1. 6 months later they ask 100 people again, 39 say they approve, 60 say they disapprove and 1 says he doesn't care. Now his net approval is -21. So you can see that his base is still supporting him it's just that people that previously didn't care now care.

[–] 1D10@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

If only you could get them to care for more then a couple hours, there are a lot of republican voters who never pay any attention to anything, they go to the polls because they feel like they are supposed to, they vote R cause that's what daddy did and his daddy before him all the way back to when the Republicans were the progressives, they are ideologically left of center. But they live in a hard R republican area, so they never meet progressives, if the bought gas a within a couple days of the pollsters calling they will say " I don't think he's doing so good" the rest of the time it's "yeah he's doing fine I geuss".

I know these people I used to talk to them, they are the republican voters who aren't always angry, they are just willfully ignorant.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago

Seriously. I wish people would stop posting shit like this. It’s obviously written just to be left-leaning copium.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's pretty easy to not be furious about it. Just do the opposite of what he's been doing.

[–] n4ch1sm0@piefed.social 3 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, such as the the opposite of breathing!

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 30 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

There's no way they aren't going to rig the midterms. I expect Republicans to sweep both Houses with a supermajority.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 26 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

They certainly are but its not really binary like rig or dont rig.

They're trying a bunch of different things to greater or lesser extent in different places.

However, the swing against them might be "too big to rig". So even though they block some postal votes and send ICE to polling booths, it might not be enough.

The stronger the dem vote the more egregious their manipulations need to be.

Its almost comical how terrible a job this admin is doing of everything other than rewarding the oligarchs.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t see how the Dem vote is stronger for midterms than the presidency. I don’t think people want to vote for them at all.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 4 hours ago

Trump is pretty unpopular.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 9 points 14 hours ago

If they’re getting people to frame this as R vs D, they’re winning. Just not as fast as they might want to.

It’s the socialist-leaning takeover of the Democratic Party that has them worried. Because those people won’t use the Republican playbook.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

It's weird how the cons blather on about freedom and liberty and the Constitution and 'merica, etc., and try to act like they are the arbiters of what patriotism is.

Meanwhile, it is they that did things like have avatars of Putin shirtless on horseback. It is they that cozy up to dictators and they who absolutely despise democracy.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Why ever would they do that?

Our political system depends on the "heel" taking a back seat every few years, now the "face" comes in for damage control with much incompetence; due to their ineptness, the "heel" will be able to convince just enough of the next generation to vote for them and start the process anew.

This has worked for longer than any of us have been alive.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

What is the lows are actually the project 2025 guys turning off the tap so Trump actually fucks off next election and they can put the next guy in

[–] nserrano@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Not surprised, With this president he’s going to breaking record lows for the foreseeable future.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago

Can he get a record low pulse rate? Please?