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Are Developers Right to Hate 'Gamers'? | Ratat (www.youtube.com)
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[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I was thinking earlier that a lot of other software users could stand to be more entitled and demanding in the way gamers are.

Sorta in the way whole reddit threads of users will pester devs to meet 60 fps optimization, but for like the battery usage of common apps. Amazon has a widely used text-file reader and audio player, and they're both battery hogging dogshit (on top of Steam-style near-monopoly on digital publishing). Worse its ever been done. More people should be entitled and obnoxious about that.

[–] Soot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Thing is that if you're playing a game for fun, there's a million other games you could be playing at the drop of a hat.

If you're using generic software, most users don't realise they can use something else, never mind how. If you're using software to get something done, you're lucky if there's even one viable alternative. Either way, the vast majority of users don't really have any leverage with which to complain.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

The leverage is being annoying. Ask the mods how I know this.

[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago

yes

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago

everyone is justified in hating g*mers

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At the very least the overwhelming majority of gamers doesnt know shit about game development. (Not saying I do)

And most gamers dont really know what they truly want.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

[–] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So that's why the anime with magic robots take place in a school setting.

[–] Inui@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

While games designed by player committee usually don't go well, with some outliers like Oldschool Runescape, I think there is danger in suggesting people don't know what they want. You probably didn't mean it that way, but it reminds me of "don't you have phones?" and the astonished reactions some developers seem to have when they do something that is so obviously going to get them backlash. Like hyping up mobile games from beloved PC franchises. Literally anybody who isn't a corpo vampire excited about micro transactions can see stuff like that isn't going to go well from the first thought bubble.

[–] Aradino@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Chucking a tantrum because a game isn't on the particular device you like is eight year old shit. That whole thing was deeply embarrassing.

"Dont you have phones?" Was a remarkably light hearted joke to defuse tension after being witness to grown ass adults acting like that

[–] DonLongSchlong@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

I mean you clearly have no idea what actually happened.

No one was angry that the game was on a different device, they were angry because it being on that specific device increases the capitalist slopification by 400%

He didn't make any lighthearted jokes, but rather tone deaf ones that show the complete disconnect between the devs and publisher and the audience.

Calling out the gamers on this specific issue is such a weird take. Literally the one time they were right to be upset.

[–] Inui@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Booing people is so mild lol. The videos and posts after were predictably bad, sure. The other user got what I meant. Creative Assembly had the same thing happen when their trend chasing Hyenas game was announced. Their flagship Total War franchise was not doing very well with major bugs still going unfixed to this day. Then they go and announce a Battle Royale.

I'm not just talking about creative pivots because plenty of studios have done that successfully. Or working on side projects. There's a lot of hype for Guild Wars 3, which is going to be very very different from Guild Wars 2, which is very different from 1. They're basically different genres. Kojima and his studio can make whatever the heck he wants and people will buy it. Because he actually has goodwill he's built up.

There's certain developers, usually larger ones beholden to suits, who ignore what is in front of them and what people have been asking for in their products for years before things get to the point of derision.

I think a lot of people know perfectly well what they want and it's usually that they want to not be treated like walking wallets.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What's quite unique about gamers is that they are a large group of users that pay for software.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Gaming is a big community full of many gamers

[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And very willing free QA testers

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

That's normal.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

rare betteridge's law L

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

Hey, anyone this guy hates probably deserves it.

[–] princeofsin@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are gamers like porn consumers who actively hate the people that make their slop?

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

Yes. Gamers are the worst

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

how-compelling gamer-gulag gamer-gulag gamer-gulag gamer-gulag gamer-gulag

Yes

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

yes, and vice versa

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

Are people building a pond right to hate the pond scum that will grow to engulf the entire pond and kill everything else in it?

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

They deserve each other.

[–] Rindogang@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Yes. I unironically use the word g*mer as a slur