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[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 75 points 9 months ago

there are no millennials, there is no gen-z, we are all just children of neoliberalism, born in hell

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago

Not even a cool hell with demons with bat wings breathing fire.

Just a bunch of blank boring trad shitheads.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hey now, we just had a plague descend upon the land and drag millions gasping to an early grave, there is perpetual warfare where children are exploded by flying robots, it's getting hotter and hotter, and our minds are constantly inundated with meaningless chaotic harsh hateful noise designed to direct our spending to specific vendors over other specific vendors, and it is for that final reason that all of the stuff preceding it is happening, in a horrifying mockery of all that is just and pure.

We worked damn hard to build this hell, so you better fucking appreciate it, bucko peterson-pain

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

I'll be in my room. Cleaning it.

[-] Runcible@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

the room, or....

[-] LordBullingdon@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

This is the thing, they fucking know they sold out future generations with neoliberalism so that they could be landlords and homeowners and go on holiday cruises. They know it which is why they are so defensive about it.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Like the matrix but all the numbers are just the stock market.

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago
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[-] AlicePraxis@hexbear.net 72 points 9 months ago

every time I hear about "gen alpha" it makes me wince. we're really just perpetuating a harmful cycle by stereotyping and categorizing people into arbitrary groups while they're still children, it's not right

and don't even get me started on the "waiting for the boomers to die" bullshit

generational warfare only serves to detract from what we should be focusing on, which is class warfare

[-] LeopardShepherd@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago

Wow that's so millennial of you to say smuglord

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I couldn't agree more. This generational conflict shit and forcing people into arbitrary generations is the ageist component of the culture war that distracts from reality.

I rail against it and even people who are accused of these idiotic stereotypes by virtue of being 'millenials' still defend it and reinforce it. People really bought this propaganda, I'm surprised they're "retiring" it.

[-] LordBullingdon@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

For example, if it wasn’t for Boomers Jeremy Corbyn would be in power. The entire West and particularly Anglo world would be different. We would be doing stuff about climate change. We would be solving homelessness and poverty. We would be rolling back imperialism. Etc. Corbyn won every seat in England minus the Boomer vote. Boomers are real and they can hurt you.
I mean if even just half of them weren’t totally insane the world would be a much nicer place. Yes it is 100% a product of their material conditions (ie capitalism working for them), and a media distraction from class war, but it isn’t devoid of reality. Given the existential threat of climate change I don’t think they deserve a free pass

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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

I-was-saying I'm waiting for the boomers to die.

Just for my own personal enjoyment. It's not a substitute for class warfare, but the world will be marginally better

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

It was marketing bullshit to begin with for the most part, though there is something conspicuously wrong with most people I know from the 45-75 age range and it does line up with the supposed boomer stereotypes but that could just be a low chance but possible coincidence. grillman

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

Besides the lead poisoning, i think that the material conditions boomers experienced are so unique that it can explain why they're like that. It was the absolute gravy train of history. They reaped all the benefits that labor movements fought for, they lived through a relative "peace" they didn't fight for, they got every concession that the ruling class was ever going ro hand out because they were afraid of the Soviet Union and revolution. They lived their whole lives in a kind of prosperity mankind has never known, and they took it completely for granted. In fact they took it as a given, that it was completely normal.

They have 0 ability to concieve of their lives in the context in which they occured. Which is what i find hard to understand, but its clearly true. This isn't a defense of boomers. I was raised by they so i hate them lol. But, ultimately grillman was formed by material conditions, including a dash of lead poisoning.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

They have 0 ability to concieve of their lives in the context in which they occured. Which is what i find hard to understand, but its clearly true.

I think the lead poisoning really kicks in here, because a major feature of lead poisoning in the brain is mental inflexibility and a rejection of new data.

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago
[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

The number of internet chuds that see empathy as a bad thing worthy of mockery is too damn high.

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

mfw that explains a lot about my parents

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

a major feature of lead poisoning in the brain is mental inflexibility and a rejection of new data.

That clears up a lot.

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[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

I don't know what it could be, surely not lead poisoning

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Generational gap comes from this:

As you can see, there is no way that millennials (collectively less than 5-8%), let alone Gen Z, will ever catch up to the wealth owned by boomers and Gen X.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago

Hmmmm its almost as if wealth and ones relationship to capital is the most important factor to understanding classes of people. I wonder if the struggle between these classes could possibly be the basis for all hitherto existing history. three-heads-thinking

[-] ryepunk@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

Now remove the outliers from the millennial group (basically Zuckerberg who has fully half of all the millennial groups wealth) and the line is even worse.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago

isaac-pog We got in one last kill right at the buzzer!

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 9 months ago

I hate AI art, I hate AI art, I hate AI art.

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[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 9 months ago

They want to stop doing polls where it shows 80% of over 55s enjoy all the terrible shit that nobody is supposed to admit to enjoying. Things like wealth inequality, 14 hour days for children and immigrants, the gender pay gap, racism, lack of healthcare for the poors, Israel. They know it's a bad look.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

Fucking good.

I'm tired of people saying I have zoomer humor.

[-] pezhore@lemmy.ml 21 points 9 months ago

So how long before we get a headline, "Millennials killed generational framing"?

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"We're tired of people seeing how much worse off Millennials and Gen Z are doing compared to their parents so we'll just not talk about it at all anymore."

harold-manic

[-] Goadstool@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

Generationaliam is made up and every time I hear anyone say boomer / zoomer / millennial / gen x / whatever my brain automatically shuts out everything they said before and after that.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

I dunno, polls show that older people are consistently more conservative than younger people in a way that you'd be very hard-pressed to chalk up to statistical noise.

[-] mittens@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think (white) boomers did have a significantly different experience compared to every other generation irt to access to material wealth, but I believe this is strictly US phenomena lol (Mexico doesn't have this overwhelming conservative slant among old people, at least not in electoral terms). Then again, it is significant enough as to not be a completely useless I suppose.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

Yeah, its a phenomenon brought on by material conditions, not something inherent to people born around the same time.

[-] TheOldRazzleDazzle@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

The stupid lines are that as a liberal when you get older you become conservative or when you get money you become conservative because you are afraid the younger generation wants to take it away from you like you wanted to take it away from others when you were young.

It's the dumbest fucking excuse for greed.

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

According to the historical record, which began in 1920...

[-] Goadstool@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

While this is true, there is nearly zero practical merit to lumping entire groups of people together and it's almost entirely used as a way to simply judge and dismiss people based on statistical preconceptions.

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

In terms of economics the Silent Generation was actually more left than Boomers so that trend isn't always true.

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[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

but i was so excited to hear more about boomer xoomer moomer zoomer aoomer for the rest of time bawllin-sad

[-] mittens@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

yeah they noticed there wasn't a significant difference between zoomers and millenials, which why would it exist, they're on average a decade apart, it really isn't a huge unsurmountable gap. spongebob has been on the air for far longer than this, so we mostly consumed the same cultural artifacts during our formative years. i'm not as cynic as to say it is completely useless, but the gaps between generations are arbitrarily short and thus they become meaningless

[-] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

Also we're all poor

[-] WayeeCool@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Other than class interests being the biggest contributor to why Millennials and Gen Z are generally on the same page...

I have to wonder if the whole monoculture phenomenon that internet and social media has taken to a new level might make this trend continue with future generations. Since the early 2000s there has been a sort of flattening of culture, especially since the major social media platforms started actively trying to force all users to see the same content in an effort to stop what they perceive as echo chambers. Between 1950 and 1990 there was a type of monoculture formed by nationally syndicated media but it was carefully curated to be inoffensive or at least relevant in all markets. For example, national evening news tried to stick to reporting on events or issues relevant to all viewers tuning in rather than everyone getting everyone else's local news all at once all the time. Cultural trends now happen everywhere all at once, even slag and vernacular has become homogenized.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There's also an interesting artifact of Cable TV, where Millennials watched way more reruns than anyone else in history, so they know a lot of old shows. When cable TV appeared, there literally wasn't enough content to fill a year of 24/7 TV, so every TV channel had to fill the gap by buying old catalogs of TV from the late 40's through the 80's.

I remember one time when my grandpa said something about Looney Tunes, and paused and started explaining what that was. He couldn't imagine that I watched the same cartoons growing up as he did.

When the Internet took over a lot of video watching, people were suddenly almost never watching any old content, so Zoomers don't know what the fuck Happy Days is or whatever.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago

My pet theory for a lot of this is that ubiquitous recorded media has given most commercial media an extremely long shelf life, and ubiquitous recorded media didn't really become a thing until about the 70s, so 70s music and TV has simply had more mindshare than anything before it.

The amount of media that continues to be popular today with people born after the media was created is directly related to how easily consumers could access recordings to rewatch/reslisten to the media, so while you might be able to name a couple of silent film stars from the end of the silent era, most people can't name the stars from 10 years earlier in the film industry. And every decade there's more iconic media until the explosion of iconic media with significant staging power from the 60s, 70s and 80s, a time when many Zoomer's grandparents were growing up

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 9 months ago

I think there was a Hexbear thread on this last week. But from the other way round. I.e. boomers. It covers a massive time span, relatively speaking. As well as a 'cultural' decade and it's own 'countercultural' decade.

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

I thought this was an Onion headline lmao

[-] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 9 months ago

Don't worry guys, they'll be back at it in a week or so

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago

I feel like the generational framing is very US-centric. Like eg. millennials probably end way later in Poland than in the US, if only because people over here weren't able to afford all that newfangled technology. The early gen Z kids here did not grow up with smartphones and ubiquitous internet

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

sicko-zoomer Pew Pew! HA! HA!

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

your headline is so so good

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