Personally, I'm very bitter about the completely awful effects of Reagan's tenure. Literally turned the office into a Hollywood act; you know damn well he wasn't calling the shots. He was there to draw people's attention.

If Drumpf gets a second term, I think he'll be going for the high score.

Tbh Andrew Johnson (became president after Lincoln was assassinated) is pretty high up there, too. I might actually put him ahead of Trump in terribleness, because a lot of the regressive societal shit we are dealing with now - and have been dealing with for around 150 years - can be directly attributed to Johnson’s softball treatment of the Confeds during reintegration.

Trump/Kushner did try to weaponize the COVID response against blue regions that voted Democrat. That's pretty bad

I mean, among the most evil maybe, but he was successful in what he did at least.

Can't forget that Trump if anything killed millions not even because he was trying to, but outright negligence.

Trump activity attempting to overthrow the Federal Government pushes him beyond Jackson. Moving the Southeast Tribes to Oklahoma was a fall out of the War of 1812 against the Tribes who joined the British. It doesn't remove how horrible that was. Moving so many people during a pandemic of Yellow Fever was inexcusable. Obviously Jackson didn't care.

I still think Trump attempts to overthrow the government is worse as well as losing 20 million jobs, making the Covid pandemic worse by inaction, and all his criminal activity.

I'm surprised at the amount of disagreement your comment is getting.

I don't want to downplay Jackson's displacement of American Indians, but there was one real FUBAR thing Jackson did that no one remembers:

He paid off the national debt.

Completely and entirely. The federal government existed debt free for some months (I forget exactly how long, I want to say it was a year or so before borrowing exceeded income).

On the face of it, this probably sounds like a good thing, but it hard crashed the economy. Obv wasn't alive at the time, but it's my understanding that it was the worst economic disaster until the Great Depression (and The Great Depression was only worse because the country and world were far more connected than the world of Jackson's day).

That said, I hear inauguration party was a real rager.

Ok, the stock market is at a near record high right now, under Joe Biden. Does that mean Joe Biden is now the best president ever?

Remember his trade wars with...everyone? And then he renegotiated the same agreements but worse?

Apparently, Trump had a beef with his National Security advisor, and that advisor was good friends with the admiral in charge of the pandemic office. So, to punish the Advisor, Trump closed down his buddy's office.

They are only concerned with spending when they are not in power.

It's been that way for years.