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[-] bratosch@lemm.ee 72 points 7 months ago

I'll take two; one to put in my bed and one for my underwear

[-] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 8 points 7 months ago

Most people don't have methane in their farts.

[-] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 26 points 7 months ago

You seem knowledgeable. How can I increase my methane output?

[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

become a ruminant probably

[-] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago

Biogas generator

[-] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Eat a cow whole.... I'll give you my fork .....

its super effective.

[-] SimonHoogwerff@feddit.nl 5 points 7 months ago

What makes farts flammable then?

[-] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 4 points 7 months ago

Methane. Not everyone can light their farts on fire.

[-] murmelade@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

Poor bastards

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 63 points 7 months ago

"Today's livestock farms are high-tech facilities where ammonia is already removed from the air. As such, removing methane through existing air purification systems is an obvious solution,"

sounds like it will be something they can just add to existing systems at big livestock operations, and the removal rate is pretty high

[-] TheBatz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

I feel like this will cause a huge "rebound effect" (not sur if it's the correct translation)

[-] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

You could elaborate your point instead of using a word you're unsure about.

[-] TheBatz@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Sure, reducing the methane emissions of a few farms might lead to an increased consumption of meat. Which would annihilate the positive effect brought by such innovation.

[-] Jazsta@lemmy.world 59 points 7 months ago

Really exciting development for the climate change mitigation toolkit. Let's hope it's not too challenging or costly to scale up and deploy.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 21 points 7 months ago

I still feel that these will be used in place of structural changes and we'll just end up polluting more.

[-] porotoman99@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Does that really matter if there are proper systems to deal with the pollution?

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 7 points 7 months ago

Yeah because it's not fixing the problem, really it's just passing it off to a future generation

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

Reminds me of this a bit recursive trolley problem

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

Combatting symptoms is nice and all, but ideally you'd want to remove the reason these symptoms exist in the first place.

[-] commanderbalok@lemmynsfw.com 50 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Can it be monetised more than destroying the environment though?

[-] commanderbalok@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] galoisghost@aussie.zone 33 points 7 months ago

Now a meme with real world applications. How would livestock wear pants?

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 11 points 7 months ago

Probably just a big pad over their asses

[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago

But only over the rear two legs? Or all four legs?

[-] PlantJam@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

The rear two plus suspenders, obviously.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 13 points 7 months ago

It converts it to co2 and its a structure like carbon capture stuff. Im not big on carbon capture but if you running this thing anyway it might make sense to run the output into some carbon capture scheme as it should reduce both the production and running energy since it can use some of what this is already doing as far as pulling in and exhausting the air. might be good for the exhaust to go down an old well or something to.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Not sure if there is much chance for effective carbon capture. The article states that this works for getting rid of very low concentrations of methane (so burning is not possible). That means that even with the methane 100% turned into carbon, we are talking about very small concentrations.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago

well there would be the native co2 in the air its taking in too. My point is if it was worth it enough to do on its own its already done most of the heavy lifting so I bet if a carbon capture technique was worth it, it would be riding the output of this.

[-] Monument 1 points 7 months ago

My understanding of the science is a bit shaky, but that seems a little unlikely.

When there’s a high concentration of methane, they usually use flare towers to burn it, which turns it into CO2. (Excess from chemical processing, or landfills.) This process is for lower concentrations that won’t catch fire.

But that still makes sense, because methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. However, the end product from this process may not have a high enough concentration of CO2 to make sequestration feasible, or may pose technical hurdles to the sequestration methods if the gas is a lower CO2 concentration than technologies allow for. (And that’s the part where my knowledge gets shaky - I don’t know if sequestration is just pumping carbon-rich air into the ground, or if they do stuff like pressurize it until it forms liquid or solid CO2, or try to store it in such a way that it forms hydrates underground.)

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 11 points 7 months ago

Over a 25-year period, though, methane is 85 times worse for the climate than carbon dioxide.

Doesn't it get reduced in the athmosphere in about 5 years to mostly CO2?

[-] huginn@feddit.it 30 points 7 months ago

Yes but the heat it retains in that time is 85x the effect of base CO2, which makes sense: decomposition of the methane releases energy. It does a much better job of reflecting the IR until it breaks down, then in the act of breaking down releases energy.

[-] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 7 months ago

The atmospheric half life of methaine is just under 10 years. So if you release 1k lbs of methaine in 10 years there will be 500 lbs left 10 years after that ther will be 250 ect.

[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago
[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

1k lbs is a perfectly cromulent unit of enbiggenment, colloquially known as "Calebs".

[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Give me washing machines or give me death

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago

Indeed that's 10 hundredweight. Which maybe ironically enough is rather intuitive for me, Germany still uses pounds and hundredweight (Zentner) in informal and sectorial use, meaning 500g and 50kg.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I believe that's 80 stone

[-] bronzle@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Not a fan of kilopounds, klbs?

[-] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

It's a good replacement for the heavy-fridge unit.

[-] SimonHoogwerff@feddit.nl 4 points 7 months ago

America is slowly switching to the metric system: metric pounds, metric feet, you know...

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago

I mean, it’s more clear than 0.5 tons, since “tons” doesn’t specify US or metric. Not that it would matter in this specific instance.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

But if it doesn't matter, what's the problem with tons?

[-] Rhaedas@kbin.social 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's complicated. The breakdown of methane in the atmosphere depends on hydroxyl radicals that are created at a regular rate. If you have more and more methane released, and/or you have other chemicals that also react with those radicals, the overall average half life will increase. Both those things are happening, so the old half life really isn't as accurate as it used to be. Guess which number the IPCC still uses for its models though.

[-] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 4 points 7 months ago

Goddam Hydroxl Radicals keep sending drones to attack US ships! Iran needs an ass-kicking!

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Guess i remembered wrong.

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