There's a Chapo bit from a long time ago where they put it down to chuds getting too angry before the punchline. Like, the set up of the joke will be bog standard, but then they'll pivot to whatever culture war bullshit is occupying their mind at the moment.
Joe many liberals does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
None, their too busy? Their gender!
Wow AI is getting so advanced!
Watching conservative stand up "comedy" is self harm.
Libertarian-ish dudes-rock conservative comedy is fine. Its typically some kind of Marine-Todd-esque tall tail that is funny precisely because its so overblown. Bert Kreischer's "The Machine" bit about accidentally joining the Russian Mob because he was too cool for school gets plenty of laughs. Ben Stein doing the dry nasal bow-tie conservative routine is funny because you view the incessant whiny annoyance as an act. Ron Swanson as the Epic Frontiersman stuck rebelling against a lame bureaucratic do-nothing job is funny because of the absurd contradictions. Funnier still when his best friend ends up being Aubrey Plaza, the caricature of a lazy shiftless millennial do-nothing who embodies all the things conservatives say they hate.
And Donald Trump's catty mean-girl tweets and quips are hilarious when they're aimed at puffed up liberal phonies, cliquish newsies, and other incompetent empty-suit conservative cronies. Funnier still when he goes off to our eternal mortal enemy North Korea and starts fawning all over Kim Jung Un, because Kim actually appears to have the kind of public adoration that Donald craves back home.
When conservative comedy abandons the fascist fear-mongering and embraces anarchist/primitivist roots, or loses sight of itself and engages in a bit of much-needed self-crit, its genuinely pretty good. But when its just Dennis Miller whining about how Kids Today Don't Respect Their Elders or Joe Rogan and Jon Lovitt start whining about too much "diversity" in modern media, it fucking sucks. Just washed up has-beens crying about how other comedians are too mean to them. Awful.
I was thinking more of stuff like this where the guy does "Iran bad" and "wife bad" jokes within one minute.
Probably the world's first and only anti-abortion stand-up routine!
You know you're a good comedian when you have convinced yourself that you're the first guy to think of a joke.
That comedian just sounds whiny.
These days I pretty much only listen to lesbians talk about their incomprehensibly bizarre dating life in NYC. It's like staring in to an alternate dimension of wonder and horror in equal measure.
Conservative comedy is just them listing stuff that makes them mad.
Also zero capability of really understanding any art form
gender woke probouns xDDDD
They have humor it's just not funny.
The Cruelty is the ~~Point~~ Punchline
I'm reminded of this line from a Folding Ideas critique of the truly awful Nostalgia Critic satire of The Wall:
Doug wants to be a filmmaker, he wants to make art, but he can't, because he's a fundamentally incurious person who isn't much interested in what other people think or feel and all his ideas boil down to 'what if Batman met Mario?'
The Elon Musk of film
Also Ben Shapiro's origin story. Tried to be a screenwriter, failed because he is devoid of empathy, went alt-right commentator instead.
"It's really not that vague Doug. Not vague at all."
That part broke me, and not in a laugh-out-loud way. His misunderstanding of the work is so bad and wrong that it is genuinely, literally offensive
Their sense of humor is stuck in the early 2000's when the Marlon Brothers were considered funny and people didn't cringe as much at Adam Sandler's shitty movies. Their Lady Ballers movie or whatever it's called is basically that type of humor with shock-jock stuff thrown in to be edgy.
Only problem is that they can't commit too long before they get angry and start making their jokes more of a lecture.
they are the kind of people that do racism in the style of a knock knock joke, and then blame cancel culture in communist hollywood.
knock knock
spoiler who's there
THE WOKE MOB IS AT MY DOOR
:::
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Not only that, I have noticed that it seems most of them are incapable of understanding metaphor, almost entirely. I believe that it's related to to an inability or lack of desire to see things outside the frame of their own perspective, like comrade_pibb mentions in thier post above RE: art in film. Maybe it is also related to living in a state of constant, crippling fear.
Comrades we use phobic as a slur and have no fear response to
my brain processes dyed hair the same way my ancestors' brains processed a surprise alligator, this is cool and normal
right wingers have no sense of humour
Not true!
They have "[slur]! Hurr Durr!", "Are you triggered???!!!" and "I identify as an attack helicopter! Hurr Durr!" That's three jokes for you, right there.
Because the average right winger is someone who has ambient bigotry installed into their brains through a lifetime of not needing to care. A standup comedian doing a conservative act has gone off the deep end and allowed a combination of their own insecurities and racial panic to cloud their brains.
Every public right-wing media figure seems to have a whole list of weird emotional baggage they've never dealt with. Like they'll be in the closet, or have daddy issues, or they got bullied in high school. And they never let that stuff go or went to therapy
Comedy for them is the idea that people they regard as lesser could ever be equal to them
I've bothered in the past to punch up some conservative jokes so they'd still be hateful and conservative but also y'know, function as jokes to see if its possible. Totally is, in form you can construct half decent conservative jokes but I don't think you can if you're a conservative, doing good mocking humor still requires the ability to put yourself in another's shoes to an extent, you've gotta be able to understand what you're shitting on to do it well, and they don't have that.
Oh yes, it's definitely possible. But it's not possible for conservative comedians, because their brains are swiss cheese. Conservatives don't respect comedians, they only respect extremely wealthy white men, or soldiers, or car dealership owners. Any conservative comedian is going to have internal self-hatred built into it.
I've seen a few chuds doing open mike or small shows at a local comedy venue I go to sometimes. They're always like that. It's always like a one-man surreal theater where you watch a guy grapple with emotional trauma he's externalized as hatred of women or gay people or whatever. It's exactly like you said, they can't see the perspective of anyone else because they're wrapped in a bubble of self-loathing they're refusing to acknowledge
I'm more situational humor than a stand up kinda guy, like I'm hilarious, no brag just fact irl, but it's not joke telling to someone, it's joking around with someone based. Like, I can improv super well but improv is just theater kids and they aren't funny. I'm funny in person cause I set people up to set set me up for punchlines, or just being really good at quips. I'd like to have a go at stand up but I'm afraid all I'd do is crowd work cause thst feels safe as hell to me. I just make people around me the straight man and work from that.
I've heard that comedy is when you suddenly upend expectations in a shocking or unexpected way, ie the punchline. And since fash like things to be predictable, maybe they just can't do humor bc they don't like that sudden surprise? So they just yell slurs to be smug in their sadism?
I posted above that I did punch up a conservative comedy routine, kept the content and spirit of the jokes but made them into jokes. This can totally be done from a conservative perspective and you can get jokes that are bad socially but conceivably funny. They're just really bad at joke making and I think you've got some of the reason there.
A lack of empathy, imagination and also understanding of politics. They take a skewed version of reality (that they almost definitely saw secondhand in sensationalized or outright fabricated sources), find out what enrages them (blue haired, art major, LGBT, communist, radlib, coastal elite, anarchist, etc) and mashes them together. It's how you get the famous JBP "Postmodern Neomarxists" despite PoMo and Marxism being incompatible, they're 2 types of students that he dislikes that he has fused together in his leaky, smooth brain. The homunculus of a "liberal leftist" will then also contain traits that aren't necessarily from a same sort of person, it's a smorgasbord of everything they dislike, irrespective of whether it creates a coherent person or not. Daily Wire, Prager et al will invent a blue haired liberal communist who's a barista but also a coastal elite who identifies as an anarchist and has a bust of Lenin in her home, and is in an interracial relationship. And said liberal communist will suffer misfortune and that would be the joke. And that's the "good" stuff. Sometimes the joke is that Crowder dresses up with a rice farmer hat, buck teeth and do a Chinese accent and that's just the whole joke, or an "Indian Gangster" which is just him saying AAVE in an Indian accent (this is a real bit, but don't look it up, it's terrible). This is what reactionaries generally have on offer.
Even the reactionary creators of South Park have done enough LSD/Magic Mushrooms over the years to develop a base level of empathy, so they manage to pump out some decent takes every season or so. They can create a half accurate facsimile of whatever they're making fun of that way. But also, even if they're making fun of X liberal thing, ultimately the one who suffers is Cartman, who doesn't give a single shit about X and end up failing. In the gender neutral bathroom episode, the villain (unlike most right wing media) is not the trans person or the PC establishment, but it's Cartman, who starts pretending to be trans to get a private bathroom all for himself. Similarly, in the Tourette Syndrome episode, some people with TS are the surface level jokes, but the antagonist is actively Cartman, who pretends to have Tourette to get away with swearing at school. Still problematic episode, but imagine if Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder tried to write it. Cartman would be the protagonist. This is what reactionaries would make with an ounce of empathy for the marginalized or "the other". It's exceedingly rare.
The centrist liberals do this, too, making fun of right wingers as if they're just inbred hicks and not like small business owning suburbanites. But they normally overlap and therefore get overshadowed by actually good content, so they're not as prominent.
Finally, here's a Doctor Mister Cody video addressing similar stuff for an hour
Their sense of humor is "bullying". So unless you want to laugh at the bully's bullying to try to get in good with them or get a giggle out of watching the person getting bullied get attacked, there isn't much there to find funny.
Their version of humour only exists in DAE like to discriminate? Haha yeah screw [marginalized people] and their allies!
Did you know [insert race here] has a funny accent? I bet no one ever told you
you will pry my jokes about the dutch from my cold dead hands
Extinct. The last one was Norm Macdonald.
"I am not a conservative and have never been a conservative in my life. But I do know this. Everyone is lying."
https://twitter.com/normmacdonald/status/841839986680856576?lang=en
imho Norm comes off as someone who puts effort into being non-political, mainly because he was dedicating his life to making anyone laugh and being political was a waste of energy for that goal, and that is functionally conservative because it defaults to "things are fine as they are now", but I refuse to let conservatives claim him because they will then ascribe their actively shitty and harmful ideas to him.
What? Norm was always an "apolitical centris" at his best, and was usually far more conservative, who would frequently punch down, like when he That's the context for his "I think everyone involved in this story should die" quote.
He stayed conservative, defended trump and attacked #MeTwo towards the end of his life. Other than like one 9-11 joke, I don't see any reason why leftists would want to claim or defend him?
"Well, it's time to destroy Canada. They've had it too good for too long"
damn he was a real one when he said that
Lighten up!
it is physically and pigmentationally impossible for them to do this any further
They don't, but they do a ton of funny shit.
How is this news to you?
We have to post about someting. Look at Hexbear's cumulative post count. We ran through every conceivable topic and combination of topic 18 months in and we've been in reruns ever since.
Liberals don't either. Read this absolutely cringe attempt at libs trying to be the Onion. Not a single joke lands.
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