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Sorry for the headline. I don't know why they don't just say it's Vivek Ramaswamy.

To that end, I will accept Russian control of the occupied territories and pledge to block Ukraine’s candidacy for NATO in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China. I will end sanctions and bring Russia back into the world market. In this way, I will elevate Russia as a strategic check on China’s designs in East Asia.

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 275 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Never thought I'd see somebody worse than trump so quickly.

he also wants to remove federal regulatory and law enforcement agencies. Including, the IRS. Whose job it is... to you know... pay the government's bills...

[-] Foggyfroggy@lemmy.world 201 points 11 months ago

They are doing it on purpose. He’s 38 years old, no one is letting him near the presidency. But these over the top statements are intended to make some other candidate look like not the craziest guy in the room.

[-] yokonzo@lemmy.world 97 points 11 months ago

You know that’s actually not the craziest hypothesis

[-] phoenixdigita1@kbin.social 58 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I was watching a review of the GOP debates by some US political junkies just last week and one of the hosts said that Vivek knows he doesn't have a chance but is using this presidential run to get exposure for his planned foray into right wing talk show host. Something like Tucker or Alex Jones.

Great bang for your buck with free news media advertising by pretending to run for president and saying crazy stuff.

After hearing he wanted to start his own right wing talk show his character and mannerisms made so much more sense.

Apologies for the facebook link (They start talking about him around the 14 min mark and the comment on his talk show plans is at 20 mins)
https://www.facebook.com/abcplanetamerica/videos/3482537835297757

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I was watching a review of the GOP debates by some US political junkies just last week and one of the hosts said that Vivek knows he doesn’t have a chance but is using this presidential run to get exposure for his planned foray into right wing talk show host. Something like Tucker or Alex Jones.

or he wants to be VP.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.one 9 points 11 months ago

That was the common thought about Trump in 2016...

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 8 points 11 months ago

What would have happened if he lost? Probably exactly that.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.one 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah, that was the feeling, that he was gearing up to start his own OANN style network.

[-] demonquark@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Dude is worth like a billion dollars. Why would he want to be talk show host?

Besides that the fact that running for pres, can theoretically be used as a springboard into conservative media, what was their argument?

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 16 points 11 months ago

Why would Elon Musk want to own a social media company?

Billionaires are weirdos.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

What reason other than ego is needed by the wealthy? They don't need to consider pros/cons like the rest of us do. You see the kind of following right wing talk show types build? I could very much see someone wanting that just because they can do it.

[-] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago

Shifting the Overton Window

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Its basically the exact same method movie theatres use to sell overpriced popcorn...
Not sure what that says about people but probably nothing good.

[-] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Maybe that guy is not the craziest person in the room.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

There's a lot of competition. I mean he's meek, so it isn't always clear, but Mike Pence is fucking nuts.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Damn, it's working.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

More likely he's doing this on purpose to gain notoriety and wealth through media presence

Also he's trying to evade lawsuits

[-] Foggyfroggy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well yeah, but maybe both? They probably offered him a talking head show already.

*edit aaaaand the guy above says he has his tv show

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

It could be both

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 months ago

"They'd never let this guy take power!"

Where the fuck have you been.

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Considering one of his opponents tried to destroy the happiest place on earth, signed into law a law that allows people to kidnap kids, and worked as a torturer at gitmo, that is saying something

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 11 months ago

Plus he's brown. With a foreign sounding name.

The chances of Trumpy Republicans abandoning Dear Leader and voting en mass for an Indian looking guy are vanishingly small.

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 23 points 11 months ago

It's like "conservatives" are actually compelled to make the worst, most unethical choice, every time...

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

those aren't conservatives. Biden is a conservative. GOP are regressives.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 13 points 11 months ago

"Conservative" in USian means "fascist".

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

No: conservatism is tribalism. It's always been "well someone's gotta be king." That is the origin of the term, right back to the invention of the modern republic. It's just hierarchy plus excuses.

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[-] appel@lemmy.ml 17 points 11 months ago

Are we going to have to do this every 4 years? Just roll the dice and risk some wholly unqualified asshole, somehow even worse that the former guy, becoming president so he or she can just shit on the people and the planet for the next 4 fucking years?

I am so tired of this bullshit.

[-] Sanity_in_Moderation@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not forever. Now and probably 2028. The people they are appealing to are dying and are rapidly being replaced by the youth. By 2032 they won't be enough to dominate an entire party. They will return to the fringe.

[-] teruma@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

We're at a point where they are so close to codifying their reign into our country's laws that it will no longer matter if they have a majority or not.

[-] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

They've already done so. Political gerrymandering, legislative subversion of direct democracy, political ejections from state legislatures, etc. The thing that kills me is that the Dems have not come out loudly and uniformly in favor of shit that would make a difference, like rank-choice voting, non-partisan redistricting, etc. Fuckers all around.

[-] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Until progressives move en masse to rural areas, this country is fucked. Gerrymandering is largely possible because you only need to go two feet outside of any urban area to be in a blood red sea of prideful ignorance and xenophobia.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 11 months ago

Until we become the old assholes for not engaging enough into the ecological transition.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

For the forseeable future? yes.

Personally. I plan to go start a lunar colony, then mars, then jupiter. Build up a space civilization of enlightened scientists who.... will tolerate my leadership because "well at least it's not as bad as on earth."

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Enough scientists are feral enough to just throw someone out an airlock. That shit would rapidly devolve into some demented form of anarcho-syndacalism.

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[-] appel@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago
[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

...maybe?

sure. If it turns out you're that annoying person who won't shut up about there kids on the shuttle ride out, I can just use you as a scapegoat. :)

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

There's a lot worse than Trump. Trump is dumb AF and is easily persuaded. I'm doubting that Trump ever actually came up with an idea of his own. He's a puppet through and through.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

he came up with the idea of having a button that summons diet coke,

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

He also came up with the name "Space Force" and they let him pick a new color scheme for Air Force One.

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[-] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

It seems that some candidates believe that to win against Trump you have to be dumber than him.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Just look at all his accomplishments like .... .... .... .... and .... .... .... .... and don't forget .... .... .... ....

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Also, we should remember that time he...

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