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Ottawa has started to make payments for key components for 14 additional U.S.-built F-35s, even as the Carney government has been reviewing future fighter-jet purchases in the context of trade tensions with Washington, sources have told CBC News.

The money for these 14 aircraft is in addition to the contract for a first order of 16 F-35s, which will start being delivered to the Canadian Armed Forces at the end of the year.

According to sources, the new expenses are related to the purchase of so-called “long-lead items,” which are parts that must be ordered well in advance of the delivery of a fully assembled aircraft.

Canada had to make these expenditures to maintain its place in the long-term delivery schedule and avoid being replaced by other buyers in the queue, sources said.

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[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

You claim this is a "ground-based system", but that is not true according to this description:

"the Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS) ... is a router designed to fit inside of an F-35’s travel pod that has the capability to connect to a hardline network or satellite internet, which allows them to transmit the F-35's data simultaneously to many remote bands and regions"

https://www.dvidshub.net/image/7342014/autonomic-logistics-information-system

So while the analysis of the data happens on the ground, ALIS is also very much inside the plane and monitors its systems in real-time:

"ALIS receives Health Reporting Codes while the F-35 is still in flight"

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/rms/documents/alis/CS00086-55%20(ALIS%20Product%20Card).pdf

Yet you claim "all it does is track parts orders."

Care to explain why you have omitted these basic facts while defending Canada's purchase of the F-35s?

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ground based. This doesn't exclude it having components onboard the aircraft.

And yes, fundamentally, tracking inventory and maintenance requirements is all it does. I apologize if I oversimplified the details a little too much, but I'm trying to keep things readable and not get bogged down in details, and it wasn't relevant to my point. And if you'd thought about it a little longer you'd quickly realise that it's not relevant to whatever point you seem to be trying to make either.

ALIS includes a component that is carried aboard the plane and provides telemetry. Fact freely granted.

And entirely irrelevant to the notion I was addressing. The fact that ALIS transmits information from the craft is not germane to the point that it cannot be used to affect the operability of the craft - and that's according to the people who actually use and maintain these systems. I'm not making these claims; the experts are.

But none of that occurred to you because you are so desperate to try to find some kind of conspiracy theory here. To the point where even bothering to write this reply is pointless, because I can only assume that you've decided that I'm some kind of deep cover CIA agent here on direct orders from Steven Miller.

It is fucking exhausting talking to you people. I genuinely cannot comprehend the insane degree to which any tangential detail gets fantasized and catastrophized into an elaborate work of Tom Clancy fan fiction.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

"You people"

Hey look, I never made any claims other than pointing out that you were clearly intentionally being misleading.

Anyway: would you fly a plane if you could not verify that it was in working order?