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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 56 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

still waiting for someone to demonstrate a more efficient power transfer solution

[–] nomecks@lemmy.wtf 63 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

You're in luck. Supercritical CO2 turbines are a thing now, and they're way more efficient because they don't involve a phase change.

[–] Monument 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It’s funny (in a sad and sardonic sense) - I pay attention to the energy industry and the outcry over data centers has got me watching these generators closely. If they deliver on their promises, they could represent a great way to deliver on mirror-based solar reactors in areas with limited water resources. (And to recapture and use waste heat from the servers of data centers.)

Society is on the precipice of investing a lot into increasing energy generation for data centers that have to be near the same sorts of resources that people need - fresh water, environs conductive to generating power, stable (enough) climates. But this technology is arriving/set to reach adoption just in time for this boom-bust cycle. All those data centers in populated areas already have a timer ticking for when the shell corps have their rugs pulled.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 1 points 38 minutes ago

Unfortunately, there's no way to get energy out of waste heat that won't be spent pushing that heat a little harder. Already a significant amount of energy is spent cooling data centers, any attempts at energy recapture will just make that cooling harder.

The best we can do is something like district heating, because heat pumps can get over 100% effective efficiency.

[–] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Got any sources on that? I would love to learn about some new tech in electricity generation.

[–] silver@das-eck.haus 32 points 9 hours ago

One facility opened in China a couple weeks ago. I can't find the article that I read from the other day but this should give you some info

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 5 points 7 hours ago
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 18 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Solar cells, technically.

boiling water systems have a thermal efficiency of ~40% Solar cells are closer to 45% efficient

[–] spazzman6156@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

So line a nuclear fusion containment chamber with photovoltaic cells?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today -4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Doesn't seem particularly efficient to me... The sun burns hundreds of millions of tons of hydrogen every second. The amount of released energy we actually put to use is indistinguishable from zero, not 45%.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago

I mean, that's like pointing out that a coal plant isn't very efficient because it doesn't burn all the coal on Earth at once.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 6 points 4 hours ago

If we put it like that, every other energy source on earth begins that way and adds at least one conversion step.

... except for fusion of course.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Helion is trying to build a fusion reactor that harvests the energy through electro magnetic induction.

https://youtu.be/HlNfP3iywvI

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 1 points 36 minutes ago

I'll believe it when I see it. They have so many material science challenges ahead of them and aren't very forthcoming with progress.