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[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 223 points 10 months ago

So I'm in the military, and my unit is particularly pleasant to be at, enough that if there are other military people on here, they might get upset by what I'm about to say.

We have peer group meetings with the Commanding Officer of the base, meaning each paygrade meets with the CO without the people above or below them to hear, and discuss issues. As you can imagine, those in the lower paygrades tend to be significantly younger, and when it got to my paygrade, we were all, almost without exception, millenials.

To give a background, in the military we get 30 days of leave per year (basically vacation), unlimited sick days, maternity and paternity leave (I believe it's at 2 months for Paternity, which is pretty generous by US standards). Additionally, at my unit, we get a four day weekend for every federal holiday, have various "morale days" through the year for fishing derbies, group hikes, etc, and a 6.5 hour work day (cue all military going WTF?!).

At the lower paygrade peer group, a few of them were apparently asking for "more control" over their time off, and being able to take ask for days off with no notice because the weather was going to be good (for hunting, for example). When the CO brought the stuff they were saying up to us, the older, supervisor, millenials, we were facepalming and talking about the fucking Zoomers. But then something amazing happened:

The CO said he could see their point, and maybe we take some of those four day weekends and instead give a few "Liberty Bucks" at the beginning of the year to each person, that can be turned in to get a particular day in the immediate future off (like getting the next day off to go hunting). That actually worked really well for us, because it made those long weekends easier to schedule, and spread out the days people would be out.

And I realized we Millenials were just so happy to have what we had, we couldn't fathom asking for something better... but they could, they did, and got it.

Fucking Zoomers indeed. Keep pushing, y'all.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago

The audacity of Zoomers will save the future.

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My personal theory on why old people become miserable conservative pricks is that we're born into this world knowing absolutely nothing, and spend every moment of our lives trying to figure out what in the fuck is going on. Over time, you start to figure some of it out. Then, when you've finally started to get a hold of some shit, and finally start to get into a rhythm of what you're supposed to do, the next generations come in and start changing shit.

People aren't against things being better. But they are against not knowing what the fuck they're supposed to do in life. The problem is the overlap. Changing something for the better means people that spent their whole life doing it one way are now in a state of chaos and uncertainty, which is followed by fear.

So you slowly become conservative, and resist all change.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 17 points 10 months ago

As MellowWheat said, people don't become conservative as they get older. That's a myth. People just stop accepting new ideas and stop thinking they can be wrong. They stop changing basically. They get what they wanted, but once they do they don't want more so they end up just wanting to keep things the way they got them.

Also, even this I don't think is fully true. The boomers and the next generation or two mostly became conservative when they got older, but I don't know if this is necessarily the rule. They were just raised to be selfish. I've seen it with my parents. They just tend to think about themselves and their family first, and things happened to work out because the economy grew with them so almost everyone had enough, but that's not the case anymore. We need more cooperation if we're going to survive.

[-] mellowheat@suppo.fi 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

People stop changing around their 20s typically. But the world around them doesn't stop. This happens to almost everybody.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 89 points 10 months ago

May we all be so fortunate as to have a hand in creating a world in which we are executed as reactionaries

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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 87 points 10 months ago

Honestly if the zoomers get to a point where they're actively organizing and getting shit done, I'm happy. It's more than millennials were ever able to do

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago

Not so sure... used to think the kids are alright, but have been seeing some disturbing trends from the tankies, who are just fascists that like red flags and yellow stars.

They know things aren't fair and know there's problems but are prone to the same fascist tricks the MAGAs fell for.

Hopefully they can pass beyond of this phase, things can go the wrong direction when people organize with violent intentions.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 22 points 10 months ago

I'm not too worried. Tankies are prominent here, on the fediverse, but despite the mewling of cretins like GenZedong, are not particularly powerful in the latest gen.

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[-] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I've noticed a lot of them are "puritan pilled." For example, growing up, if there were sex scenes in a movie you would say "yeah, that makes sense. People like to fuck and fucking is a big part of relationships. Showing people being intimate isn't really a big deal." But now, I've heard younger people complain about sex scenes in movies. Like, as if it should be reserved exclusively for pornography. Which is a very....reactionary cultural take. It's sort of ghettoizing intimacy, and it's very similar to the perspective of prurient Baby Boomers in the 1990s or 00s who wanted every movie that showed a penis to be rated NC-17. I wonder if the Zoomers won't wind up having a lot more in common with their Baby Boomer grandparents than they realize.

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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've seen a lot of tankie zoomers, but the generation on the whole seems pretty woke to the difference between socialism and authoritarianism

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[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Every generation has gone through a protesting and getting shit done phase. And before you say it:yeah boomers went through a phase too. Only they were doing things like literally killing themselves/setting themselves on fire to stop wars and regimes. Those protests are where the beatles songs came from. You can only imagine what kind of life they were protesting cuz each generation has created a step up from where the last generation got to. The generation before theirs was fighting for women to be seen as humans and not just property. Many steps for getting to this point had to be taken just so the fight doesn’t have to be about that. But about something else to improve.

It’s like painting a picture and cleaning up the mistakes. Each generation is like a pass cleaning a part of the picture and then you see the next thing to fix.

Bravo for the current generation but Just bestowing the crown for the current generation is just looking at improvement in relativity. It is not absolute.

And you’re still going to find you have meglomanic neo nazis running around somehow existing as an idea in each generation. That goes just to show you each generation isn’t a hive mind.

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[-] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 24 points 10 months ago

Cool does that mean they're gonna vote this time

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Yay murdering people over ideology, this has never been a bad thing!

[-] hglman@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Murdering people for harming others, more grey.

[-] boborhrongar@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

So you guys aren't even upvoting this like "bro it's obviously a joke" you're upvoting like "yeah no I think we should just murder people who do bad things sometimes, maybe even pretty often."

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think the disconnect here is coming from the vague "bad things" and "dragging people from their homes."

To me dragging people from their homes conjures up images of Krystalnacht, when the nazis dragged people from their homes for ideologically disagreeing. Ideologically disagreeing isn't "bad things" enough for me to justify murder, thus why I think the nazis did the "bad things," to which the response wasn't dragging nazis from their homes, it was all out war against uniformed combatants and the violence was justified. We did however drag many Japanese Americans from their homes during that same war and put them in camps, which I also think was a bad thing.

So what "bad things" justify political violence? To me, basically genocides/pogroms and that's it. To others it may (and does) mean "wrong opinions" but imo Ideological "first strikes" just make you the "bad guy."

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[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 11 points 10 months ago

This guy clearly wants the monarchy back.

[-] Muyal@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

You think people defeated the Nazis with just words?

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[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 23 points 10 months ago
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[-] Username02@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

You know which brand of "leftists" like pull this kind of shit right? Yep, red fash, fucking Tankies. I'd be fucking worried if zoomers are actually acting like this.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If they're red fash I'll be worried, but if they're just going Reign of Terror or Paris Commune or Anarchist Catalonia, I'll accept my execution with good grace.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

The reign of terror french were pretty proto-red-fash tbch, people don't exactly consider very often WHY it was where the fiercest resistance to this lang d'oil region centered uprising was concentrated in regions like the basque country, bretton country, and the lang d'oc regions. It wasn't that they yearned for royalist ideals to be reinstated, it was because Robespierre and his even crazier backers were so paranoid by the end that something like movements for language rights were treated as exactly as traitorous as plotting to restore the bourbons to the throne with a counter purge to boot.

Something the modern revolution idealizing french seem to have made fully into one of their "the quiet part" policies with how they implement their version of laïcité.

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[-] boborhrongar@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

"Authoritarianism is cool when "the people" are doing it"

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[-] franklin@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Man tankie is this place's favorite meaningless insult. Y'all use it where it doesn't even make fuckin' sense.

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Didn't think lemmy would peak so early in the day for me. This is top shelf shit

[-] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 11 points 9 months ago

Anyone not getting the reference:

“I dream of a society in which I would be guillotined as a conservative.” – Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

As always, but boomers did it first.

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

What the fuck?

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

I die happier than I could ever imagine

[-] Bobmighty@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Bait. Lots seems to be falling for it too.

[-] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

What in the Reddit is going on in here

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