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[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 97 points 10 months ago

What a useless interviewer. "I asked Biden what he would do in a second term to protect abortion access at the federal level"

WHY DON'T YOU ASK HIM WHAT HE COULD DO NOW, AS AN ACTUALLY EXISTING PRESIDENT?!

just-one-small-problem

[-] goferking0 39 points 10 months ago

That's coming with his student loan relief plan...

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago

He's forgiven loans for another 25 people so I'm really not sure what more you commies want from him.

Another 4000 years and we'll have the student debt crisis reasonably and pragmatically managed.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago

The Student debt crisis which HE PERSONALLY CREATED THROUGH HIS OWN ACTIONS BY CHAMPIONING AND PASSING THE BILL THAT MADE IT ILLEGAL TO DISCHARGE YOUR STUDENT DEBT.

I cannot cannot cannot cannot cannot understand why anyone believed he would fix this thing, HE DID IT. IT'S HIS LEGACY. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[-] goferking0 20 points 10 months ago

*forgiven those 25 by applying the law that should have already forgiven said amounts

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

And the cure for cancer. He promised.

[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

I know that was just the pudding dripping out his ear, but that sure was a wacky thing to say and if the DNC had a shred of consistency, that would have put them in a weird spot.

If it was a real promise, it should have been done in the first term, in order to not look weak if for whatever reason, he doesn't make it to a second.

This is true of any issue he campaigned on last time, like legal weed

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

fuck i forgot about that lmao. i love that everyone was immediately like "okay cap, we know that's not gonna happen, what else ya got?"

[-] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 72 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Excellent political instinct as the "harm reduction" candidate to announce your opposition to the concept of bodily autonomy. Eager to see how the Dems will attempt to claim that he misspoke or something.

"I don't agree with the right to choose, but it's the politically expedient position, Jack!"

[-] Pastaguini@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago
[-] Frank@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago

I haven't heard them bring that up in a while. Now it's just "yes, he is objectively evil, but trump is double evil!"

[-] Pastaguini@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago

The weird thing is I don’t think I ever actually heard him stutter. He speaks incoherently and says inappropriate things but he doesn’t repeat the first sounds of his words. It never really made sense as an excuse.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

I've seen a couple of clips of him legit stuttering, but they're from like 30 years ago. "He has a stutter" sure, but he seems to have figured it out decades ago.

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[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

beginning to sense that voting for him isn't about harm reduction so much as culpability reduction. the exact same shit will happen either way, it'll just be someone else's fault.

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[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 65 points 10 months ago

he's anti-choice on bodily autonomy and Democratic Presidential primaries

brandon

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

Sorry sweaty, nobody OWES you a primary. You have to vote for it smuglord

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[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 63 points 10 months ago

Complete inability to read the room. It’s not 1992, the kind of voters he’s trying not to alienate with this shit have been dead for a decade and change.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago

It’s not 1992...

Maybe (very?) soon Biden says "President Clinton is workin' to solve this problem. And I as senator am doing my part. Hold on. That doesn't sound right. Not at all. I feel funny. Does anybody else smell burning rubber?"

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[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 54 points 10 months ago

The absolute masterclass in politics of Joe Biden coming out right now and clarifying that he's begrudgingly pro choice from a polical expediency stand point but against it personally.

[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago

"you have to have a public and private position"

-Hillary "most qualified person ever but still lost to a game show host that she amplified" Clinton

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 54 points 10 months ago

Let me shit away what little support I have leftdem

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago

The emperor not only has no clothes, he is shitting himself while waggling his robinette around on k street.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

The emperor is loudly declaring that he has no clothes and anybody who says he does is a dog faced pony soldier, followed by 48 hours of MSNBC saying anybody who says Biden has no clothes is a Russian shill.

[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

biden-harbinger I could shoot every policy you libs care about in broad daylight and not lose any of your votes

(Because you believe in nothing)

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago

Biden once voted for a constitutional amendment to overturn Roe v Wade btw.

[-] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

Holy shit, do you have a source for that? I gotta keep that in the back pocket, for arguments with libs

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 42 points 10 months ago

We pushed him so far left he had an integer overflow error.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago

Democrats did this "abortion is a right but I morally object to it" song and dance for decades. Biden's mummified brain can't read the room and understand that excuse isn't important anymore.

"It's just my personal belief, it won't effect my decision making" okay cool how about you just shut your fucking mouth about it then? You're talking to a reporter not pleading your case in the court of almighty judgement.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

"I guess I'll do the right thing but I want to make it really clear I'm doing it for political reasons and wanna make sure everybody knows I'm still on the wrong side of history and this isn't a firmly held belief."

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago

A vote for 100% Hitler is a vote against 100% Hitler.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Why don’t these people ever die

Also you’d have to be a fucking dumbass to believe this dems controlled senate house and pres when roe was repealed

football-lucy

[-] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 10 months ago

These people always have the shittiest takes and don't even explain why lmao. You don't think people should have autonomy over their bodies...why?

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago

"i have no principles and if I did, they would be wrong."

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago

Are you telling me that an octogenarian conservative catholic who was best buddies with Strom Thurmond has absolutely dogshit opinions about women's bodily autonomy?

Color me surprised.

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago
[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

Don't forget the 4 years after that where libs insist we handed Trump the presidency because we didn't like that Biden was old.

It's the "but her emails" of a hip new generation.

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[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Wtf even is "abortion on demand"?? It isn't Netflix, you have to see a doctor to do it. It has the same fascist ring to it as when they say "omg they're now killing babies when they're born"

Pure fearmongering.

[-] D3FNC@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago

I can translate. "Abortion on demand" means "without bullshit red tape, multiple visits, gate-keeping, unnecessary expenses and guilt-tripping."

Apparently equivalency to any other medical procedure is unthinkable. And that's with access to healthcare being absolute dog shit here as it is.

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD AN ABORTION

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[-] PurrLure@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

Tell people you're a sex offender without saying it directly, holy shit.

Also what the hell do you mean "this is probably the most rational allocation of responsibility that all major religions have signed on", why do women need anyone's permission over their own bodies? Because then you'd have less kids to snort, you sick fuck?

Screw anyone that tries to guilt you into voting for Biden this year, regardless of what state you live in. xi-gun-1 xi-gun-2 joever

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago

brump "I've never been supportive of 'It's my body I can do what I want with it'. Look, I'm a walking counter-example, Jack. Most of the time I can't even remember what I want or am even supposed to do, much less being able to."

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

Lmao this is a great point obviously the guy who's body routinely tries to mutiny him and make him walk off into the sunset doesn't support his bodies coup d'etat

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

Wanton Hussies are bad, jack. Oops. My stutter. I meant to say RESTORE ROE and all that jazz. Don't forget to vote!

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

This is your God libs? This is your God?

[-] ColonelKataffy@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

biden-point if people stop having children they can't properly supervise, who will i sniff and molest?

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[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

JESUS FUCK JUST CRUMBLE YOU FUCKING MUMMY

[-] nightshade@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

Most progressive president since FDR

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[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago
[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm convinced - with very little evidenced - that she and her husband are very much anti-abortion but they lie because if they were honest - their audience would dry up and they'd lose a lot of money.

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Whaddya know. I was right.

archive.today • What We Talk About When We Talk About Elizabeth Bruenig | by Jude Ellison S. Doyle | Jul, 2022 | Medium

The once-beloved “leftist” is facing backlash for her anti-abortion views. Why did it take this long?

Jul 20, 2022

This bit is highlighted...

To strip women and trans people of agency, violate their bodies, kill thousands of them, and then throw the survivors some free diapers isn’t “leftism;” it’s barbarism with a sheen of feel-good charity to make it sell.

There's a lot more I could quote but I'll just mention this...

Consider a sentence from that 2014 piece on “pro-life liberalism:” “Since we care enough about the outcome of pregnancy to insist against abortion, then we must continue to care about the outcome when abortion is no longer a legal option.” Did you catch it? I didn’t, at first. It’s so subtle, just a whiff of a suggestion of a hint of a teeeeeensy tell: “When abortion is no longer a legal option.”

Not “if.” When.

For Elizabeth Bruenig, the overturn of Roe has always been both possible and desirable. Her “leftism” is simple cleanliness: She wants to be standing just far enough away that she won’t be spattered with blood when the axe falls.

Thank god for archive.today. The article is now behind a paywall.

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