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[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 150 points 7 months ago

Numbers 2, 3, and 4 wouldn’t even cost the US government or Americans anything. Literally just “stop being assholes to Cubans, Venezuelans, and Mexicans living in the US” and of course the US will reject this.

[-] edge@hexbear.net 79 points 7 months ago

If anything, by their own ideology it should benefit us. A freer market with more competition.

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 77 points 7 months ago

LMAO, the ideology is so dishonest too. The day the US participates in a fair competition is the day the US loses.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 51 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The US sanctioned Vietnam after it kicked Americans’ asses, and it plunged Vietnam into even further desolation until they were forced to open up and enforced more capitalistic policies. They could’ve done the same with Cuba, but just like how the west will never forgive the USSR for defeating fascism in Europe, the US will never forgive Cuba for defeating US imperialism underneath its nose.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 71 points 7 months ago

It costs the US the most valuable thing it has, hegemony, which is why we won't see it in our lifetimes unless quite a few things change.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 40 points 7 months ago

Not even that, it saves the US money. Unironically, if the US was a smarter capitalist country, they'd lift the embargo and just try to cause Cuba to undergo another glasnost and perestroika by simply having capitalism prove itself.

But of course, this means corporations would have to be in it for the long haul, and they're too addicted to instant gratification to even avert a climate catastrophe.

[-] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 134 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Sensible policy like this goes right over the heads of the average American.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 78 points 7 months ago

Bloodthirsty boomers just want to genocide latin america instead.

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 60 points 7 months ago

Boomers* are the most miserable people on the planet. I've never seen a group so ready to kill themselves and everyone around them.

*Western boomers

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago

They directly robbed from their children via the economy and indirectly robbed from them by destroying the environment. Caligula would blush at their wanton debauchery.

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 37 points 7 months ago

I think this was said on Chapo awhile ago, but boomers are willing to stack millions of corpses on the southern border so they can live in their Floridian retirement communities that will be underwater in a decade. I don't like to engage in generational politics but western boomers are largely ghoulish, soulless individuals who think they're the only "real" person and everyone else exists to serve them in one way or another

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

It's okay to point out that out, "generational politics" doesn't really mean anything when the people you're talking about regularly engage in reactionary thought and practices.

Western Boomers are unapologetically reactionary

[-] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

The people who live to see boomer old age are largely the ones being served. The servant boomers are all dying off. That’s why the concentration of the archetype you describe exists among the old.

Capitalism literally kills the poor sooner.

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

Nah Boomers always sucked. Reagan won the youth vote, the based boomers were always a tiny minority.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

*Western boomers

Baby boomers were mostly a western phenomenon anyway.

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

Ethnic boomers scare tf outta me, God forbid you bring up mental health

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

We do have them in eastern Europe too, it's the generation born in 40's and 50's, so roughly equivalent, which didn't personally knew war and nazism, was first generation profiting from the unprecedented social equality and growth under socialism, reciving education, jobs, housing, help in raising family, economical stabilisation. And then they shat down on this under western propaganda offensive and sold their countries and next generations for the trinkets and baubles promised to them by Radio Free Europe.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 7 months ago

Polish, and other eastern European boomers did killed the socialism in their countries over treats promises by RFE so i don't see meaningful difference.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 48 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What do you mean boomers lol

If democrats and republicans all got replaced by 20-40 year olds, they would still continue oppressive policies against Latin America and their voters, young and old, will support it.

Ask your average young liberal or young conservative whether or not they want to give stop punishing Cuba and give money and food to Latin Americans so they stop coming to the US. They will look at you like you’re a crazy communist - which I mean is true, but it’s not even because you’re advocating for communism. Hence OP’s comment

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

I accidentally read this at first as a proposal by the president of the US and was shocked he was proposing this. Then I reread it and it made more sense.

I read it initially as the Americans being angry at his proposal and were counting it on their list of reasons to support his political opponents.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

I mean most Americans would be angry with this and maybe consider it a coupable offence.

[-] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That's what I read it as at first.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 91 points 7 months ago

this is far less than the US owes

[-] edge@hexbear.net 47 points 7 months ago

Maybe he means $20 billion per country per year.

That’s still not enough though.

[-] roux@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago

Can we really put a price on completely destroying a country just to add it to a supply chain though?

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 83 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Fr. I keep telling people, if you hate immigrants so much, why do you support the policies that force/coerce so many people to flee to the Greater Satan?

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 60 points 7 months ago

Because they live in lala bootstrap land where US foreign policy has no impact on the rest of the world and if people are poor elsewhere it’s because they don’t have enough entrepreneurial grit. “There is no such thing as society” on a global scale.

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

They think the shit produced by the shining city on the hill doesn't roll down

[-] edge@hexbear.net 45 points 7 months ago

They are completely unable to see the connection there.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 44 points 7 months ago

I tried that argument years ago. I'm just convinced these people want the world to suffer. There isn't any other explanation. Cruelty for the sake of it. Cutting off their noses to spite their face.

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

There is though. They wanna plunder other countries and shut out their refugees to keep more for themselves. I go over to your house, trash the place and take all your valuables, go back to my house and lock it tightly so you can't get anything back. I have no interest in improving your situation, my goal is not the cruelty itself but my material benefit at the expense of whoever is a viable victim.

It's all about redistributing resources from the many to the few, to the in-group. Both materially supporting the out-group or letting members of the out-group into the in-group would completely defeat the purpose.

[-] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

because they hate Non-White people

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 73 points 7 months ago

"I'm gonna build a (sensible humanitarian aid package) and (America) is gonna pay for it!"

  • Johnald Don Drump, bizarro world president
[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 65 points 7 months ago
[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 59 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

very reasonable

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 49 points 7 months ago

While I'm sure there's a whole load of legal and administrative paperwork to be done for that plan of distributing $20 bil per nation in ensuring its effectiveness, such an action would be a decent first step in creating stability across the americas.

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

Guess that's not the case if it's bombs they're sending.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 46 points 7 months ago

Hmm. Seems crazy, but basic human decency might just work!

[-] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 40 points 7 months ago

It certainly is a step in the right direction, and would actually help in more than just immigration

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 32 points 7 months ago
[-] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago

Consider this: Legalize ALL Mexicans living in the U.S.

[-] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

and illegalize all white people.

[-] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago
[-] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

You do really gotta hand it to em on this one

[-] trumpetnoises@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

bro forgot about nicaragua

[-] Site_Hating_Moid@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

Sorry babe, cant spend that much money, im already sending my old buddy Israel all the monry wr had in the vaults as well as the clothes i pawned offy back

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