You know someone has fash tendencies when they... (CW:Violence) (hexbear.net)

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Immediately stomp an insect when they see one inside the house. It's like a reflex or impulse and honestly it's kinda scary seeing an otherwise nice person just stomp an insect or spider or whatever in cold blood almost instantaneously. There's like no thought or contemplation, it's just see the insect, and then immediately stomp it.

Like holy shit what did that little critter do to you? Just let it be.

EDIT: Holy fuck the responses. I guess many didn't actually read what I wrote. I wrote that people who "immediately stomp" without "thought or contemplation" have fash tendencies and I get accused of fashjacketing. Ugh whatever. To those who had thoughtful responses (e.g. if you feel something stinging your skin and swat it with your hand, or if you have an infestation issue in your house, etc.), I gotta say those make sense and I hear you all the way (and even in those cases it's not like there's a kneejerk intentional kill response, it's usually accidental or done after careful deliberation). But to the ones complaining about fashjacketing, maybe do some self crit for fuck's sake. You sound exactly like the fucking man vs bear defender types or a white fragility type, Jesus... It makes me actually think you do have fash tendencies tbh.

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 74 points 5 months ago

You are fashjacketing people who kill bugs. Please consider... idk... just consider something. Everyone who isn't a Jain is a fascist? What is this?

[-] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

people are kinda nuts sometimes

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

Compassion for all living things isn't nuts, and I'm sympathetic, but calling killing bugs a fash tendency is not reasonable or productive. It's not indicative of anything. The only group that consistently refused to kill bugs, afaik, is the Jains. And there's only a few million of them. Saying that every other culture, society, government, group of people in the world has fash tendencies because they thoughtlessly kill bugs is not accurate and does not represent a remotely materialist analysis.

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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

I don't read this a fashjacketing, I read it as an examination of a specific fascism-compatible tendency, phrased in a way that could also easily be read as fashjacketing.

[-] muslimmarxist@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

Yeah reading comp is beyond some here...

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

This post was made in the politics comm. If it had been made in /c/vegan or /c/chapotraphouse or /c/chat it would be read differently. In the context of the politics comm it reads as an earnest statement intended to be read at face value. The choice of venue shapes how the message is perceived. The post reads as a political statement that killing bugs reveals a person to have fascist character.

I am sympathetic to your compassion for all living things, but this is not an appropriate way to present that view.

[-] muslimmarxist@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This post was made in the politics comm. If it had been made in /c/vegan or /c/chapotraphouse or /c/chat it would be read differently. In the context of the politics comm it reads as an earnest statement intended to be read at face value. The choice of venue shapes how the message is perceived. The post reads as a political statement that killing bugs reveals a person to have fascist character.

I call complete cap on that. If anything this sounds like you trying to tone police based on "venue" or some ephemeral construct like that. "Oh I support your right to protest but do it in the rIGhT wAy!!" kinda shit. I see posts in all kinds of comms, including this one, that link behaviors with tendencies. Cuz you know, "everything is political" right? But with this all of a sudden come the "rules/regulations" BS? With all due respect, eff off with that shit.

but this is not an appropriate way to present that view.

Yup white moderate vibes... smh

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[-] kristina@hexbear.net 59 points 5 months ago

bait

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

This is the most unserious struggle session i have ever had the displeasure of walking in to.

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

If you pick up a rock to stack it you're potentially evicting a bunch of bugs that were living underneath, which is some real landlord/cop energy.

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[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

This one’s gonna live in my head rent free for a while. It’s too good.

[-] pisstoria@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

kelly Fly fishing

[-] spacecadet@hexbear.net 58 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Anthropomorphizing little bugs and deciding not to kill them is valid (I do this) but deciding that those who do not are fascist is, imo, an unexamined, myopic and frankly cushy lib perspective

Edit: however if you torture bugs you are probably a pyschopath

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

Fascism link is sketchy at best, but I do agree that it's something that makes me think way way less of a person.

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 45 points 5 months ago

Indoor bugs vs outdoor bugs struggle session is now in session lets-fucking-go

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 42 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

When it's mosquitoes, sorry, it's kill on sight. Flies, I try to chase out the open windows. Stink bugs, I pick them up with a piece of paper and drop them outside because sorry, I can't afford to have an infestation of y'all. And then you have the little pantry moths, I declare holy war on them every year when the weather gets warmer, and will stop at nothing to get rid of them.

[-] Ithorian@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If you are in the US and have grey stinkbugs you should kill them on sight, they're an invasive species. Native stinkbugs are slightly smaller and green. I flush every invasive one I can find and over the past four or five years it's really been working. I see more native ones every year now.

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[-] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

We get thousands of thoes mf stinkbugs here, and I don't even kill them, they just pile up by the hundreds it's horrible.

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[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I do this with mosquitoes. If you think otherwise, please fly up here and take a hike with me without any mosquitoe repellant or long clothing.

Absolute menaces.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

The mosquito started it in this case. They are pretty awesome at killing people with diseases, so mosquitoes or things that bite, get into your food, eat your home or will cause an unlivable infestation don't count. That's self defense. You shouldn't take joy in it, but if it's you or them, pick you. Killing bugs just for being bugs is for sure behavior that I abhor and will think less of someone for doing. Houseflies are a medium ground and if they overstay their welcome or get on my food there are grounds for termination. Also they receive no diplomatic protection from my cat that spiders and beetles enjoy.

[-] Moonworm@hexbear.net 36 points 5 months ago

"You think I'm fashjacketing? I'll show you fashjacketing! You must be a fascist!""

Good Job OP this is very funny.

Also I like bugs and try to avoid harming them.

[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

To echo @Frank@hexbear.net, bugs aren't people, and peoples' feelings toward bugs do not translate to their personal politics. The opposite, I would think. People have fash tendencies when they treat people like bugs.

[-] T34_69@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

Ok but mosquitos are really something else and they love my blood. Is it stormtrooper to smash them? Hopefully we can make one exception

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[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm actually very good towards the bugs, I feed them daily by being a cute girl who eats trash in her room, I'm almost a disney princess

[-] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

OP you're getting a lot of heat for this but for the record you are 100% correct except for bugs that harm people

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[-] DyingOfDeBordom@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

You can live in peaceful coexistence with the bugs if you want, I won't though

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[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

Like people are saying it does depend on the bug. I love bugs in general (too much some would say) and go out of my way to save spiders and such, but when I see Argentine ants massing inside the house it is ant genocide time. I feel no remorse because they fuck up every ecosystem they invade and that also includes my goddamn pantry.

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[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

nah real proles smoosh insects

[-] bubbalu@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

I seen a six year old at the school I work at kill a fat cockroach 4 seconds after it jumped out his locker. Another kid stomped it too just to be safe.

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[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

Ngl, I go full fash on mosquitos.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

TIL living in the pod and eating the bugs is fascism.

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Or if they do it outdoors, like the time I saw the partner of my friend at the time stomp on a big grasshopper that wasn't bothering anyone.

It turned out they were a regular Stormfront (not r*ddit) user

[-] bubbalu@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I used to be a lot more careful but every since having cockroaches & bedbugs back to back it's made me really desensitized. I love living in the rust belt. Outdoors I never ever ever kill bugs other than mosquitos though.

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[-] fart@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

my apt has/has had infestations of carpenter ants, other ants, carpet beetles, fleas briefly, and thats not even counting the summer mosquito and fruit fly swarms. Im so fucking done with bugs. I leave spiders but pretty much everything else gets killed. How many times have you woken up to ur kitchen floor covered in ants?

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[-] Omegamint@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

I dunno. I live in an area with a decent amount of black widow spiders and if it wasn't for the fact that I owned a tarantula as a kid (it was a weird empowering thing that actually got me over fear of spiders, don't judge) I'd probably be way more KoS with spiders. Like, people have deep rooted fears that are based on actual dangers (and who knows how much of that is rooted in some kind of genetic understanding).

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[-] Sebrof@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

One of the (many) things that gives me a disconnect from someone is when I have to explain to them why they shouldn't kill a random bug that comes across our path. It's like, I don't know how to explain that maybe it's not cool to just kill any living thing you see because it's "gross" or you just don't like it.

I've got my own learning to do too, though, with many things. But it is disheartening.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

I agree. It's low key and normalized to hell and back, but killing small animals for no reason is fucked up and bugs are the smallest animals out there. It shouldn't need to be a mammal megafauna that we've domesticated or something that resembles that to deserve to live. What lives or dies shouldn't be based on your ability to anthromorphize something. You don't have to like bugs, I'd advise learning more about em cause they're pretty fucking cool, but you do need to live in peace with them, cause otherwise I do see you as a bloodthirsty toddler.