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Naval exercises spurred by US support for Ukraine are likely to include port calls in Cuba and Venezuela, says official

Russia plans to send combat vessels into the Caribbean region this summer as part of naval exercises that will probably include port calls in Cuba and possibly stops in Venezuela, a senior US official said on Wednesday.

“As part of Russia’s regular military exercises, we anticipate that this summer, Russia will conduct heightened naval and air activity near the United States. These actions will culminate in a global Russian naval exercise this fall,” the official said.

The US does not see the move involving a relatively small number of vessels and planes as threatening, but the US Navy will monitor the exercises, the official told a small group of reporters.

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[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago

They're just trying to get as far away as possible from the Ukrainians.

[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Wait, this may actually not even be a joke considering how much of their fleet they have been losing.

[-] athairmor@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

Why? So the USA can get a better look at their lack of naval capability? To intimidate… I don’t know… summer yachting enthusiasts?

[-] Forester@yiffit.net 15 points 1 month ago

Well you see we haven't given Ukraine icbms yet, so as long as the ships are outside the Black Sea they are safe.

[-] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Safe from Ukraine maybe. I'm hoping for a pod of orcas to find them!

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[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 month ago

They are just trying to hide them from the Ukrainians.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

How funny would it be if Ukraine still sunk one

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

It's not out of the realm of possibility. They've been fucking Russia up in Syria as well.

[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Same with Sudan, who provides arms to Ukraine. So they sent special forces, DURING their own war, to aide the Sudanese govt against Wagner led rebels to retake one of their largest cities. Been fucking up unprepared Russian mercs there with drones and kicking in doors left and right. Way to honor their allies really.

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

Yes, delay the submarine metamorphosis.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago

This is implying that they have regional power? They can barely hold onto Crimea now The Ukraine is off the leash and allowed to be more proactive in its defensive strategies.

What ships are they going to send? The one's that haven't already been sunk by cheap off the shelf drones?

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

It's just Ukraine. "The Ukraine" makes it sound like a province. Ukraine makes it sound like a country. You don't say "the France, the Germany" etc.

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[-] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

"Russia to send combat vessels to Caribbean, pretty sure Ukraine wont be able to sink so many there"

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

How many fishing fleets will they attack (and fail to do much damage to) because the Kamchatka thinks they are Ukrainian torpedo boats?

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[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Don't be so sure!

[-] bassad@jlai.lu 25 points 1 month ago

Europe confiscated their yachts so now oligarchs are using military ships to go on holidays?

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

Ukraine Special Forces:

Get your swim trunks and sun tan lotion, lads! We going to the Caribbean for a couple of weeks!

[-] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago

Bruh watch as multiple ships break down and some sink due to Russian incompetence.

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[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Bold move to bring the rest of the Russian navy into striking distance of NATO defense forces during war with the signatories of the Budapest accords. Fucking idiot fell for his own bullshit.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm gonna be honest here, is there even any naval force besides the USN that could claim the ability to project power?

  • Russia's carrier repeatedly caught fire
  • India left the door open on their brand new submarine
  • UK flopped a missile into the ocean
  • China pretends the SCS is the same size as the Pacific, and also allegedly had multiple nuclear sub accidents, which they cover up.
[-] Davidchan@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 month ago

I was gonna make fun of the French but then I remembered their nuclear doctrine is to lob a 250kt yield warhead as a warning shot.

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Hopefully there will be no “accidents”, but this is good news for Ukraine. As Ukraine has been putting more effort into disrupting logistics far behind Russian lines, Russia is helping out by wasting supplies in a futile attempt to act tough.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Eh. The Montreux Convention specifically prohibits them from bringing any military vessels into the Black Sea. That’s part of the Russian Navy’s problem right now: it is actually 100% against international law (as well as a very serious treaty violation made with a NATO country (Turkey)) for them to rotate and refresh their forces in the Black Sea.

That’s why their ship losses are so strategically catastrophic, and that’s why they haven’t replaced anything. If they want any new ships in the Black Sea fleet, they’ve got to build them in the Black Sea for the duration of the Ukraine War. Not to mention, it’s pretty fucking embarrassing to lose as many capital ships as they have to a country that doesn’t currently have a navy.

Also, I wouldn’t be super shocked if Ukrainians find some creative ways to disrupt, damage, or destroy Russia Navy vessels in various foreign ports of call :)

Edit: lmao:

The Biden administration did not view the deployment with alarm since Russia had sailed ships into the western hemisphere yearly from 2013 to 2020, the official said.

“We should expect more of this activity going forward, although we note these deployments incur a cost on the Russian navy, which is struggling to maintain readiness and conduct deployments with an aged fleet,” the official said.

[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Their boats aren’t there yet. Russia’s track record isn’t the best regarding boats making it to their destination…

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

What's the over/under on the number of times members of the same fleet fire on each other this time?

[-] einkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago

Do you see any torpedo boats?

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Well, the navy has nothing to do outside the black sea and since they lost some crews there they need to start training.

I just wonder what else they will be doing there. Cause Putin just declared he will start arming groups that fight NATO countries. So in the carribean you can arm drug cartels, contras and other insurgency groups and the US will need to deal with that. As it is a direct danger and it causes more instability, thus refugees to the US. Just in time for the elections in November.

Also having a group of ships sail out also allows you to break some off to do other stuff and equip other groups. Rendezvous at sea and all.

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Just in time for hurricane season. Supposed to be a doozy this year. Will anyone rescue their poor sailors when the inevitable happens? Will we see an entire ship defect?

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Fun fact: The Russian Revolution of 1917 went underway when the Russian Navy joined in. I believe it happened just after Bloody Sunday, but I can't find it now. Anyone here remember what the catalyst was for the Russian Navy on some island to join the Russian Revolution?

[-] Exusia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Remember when "a bad storm" sank Moskva. Good times.

[-] zecg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Project global power

Hope they have aquatic cope cages to protect them

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[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Lol Russia sending the equivalent of a dingy to sink in an intimidating manner.

[-] SlothMama@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Didn't Ukraine get invaded during other such drills? Wasn't it a 'special military operation' near the border?

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago

Who are they going to invade? Cuba or Venezuela? There's no point in that, they are already at least loosely allied with Russia.

They certainly won't be invading the United States, they'd be destroyed before they could get within 10 miles of shore.

Russia is going to run a few ships around in order look tough. That's pretty much it.

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[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Good! A failed attempt to show off while weakening their forces in Ukraine

[-] FleetingTit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

They can't send warships from the Black Sea to the Carribbean. No warships are allowed passage through the Bosphorus Strait.

[-] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 3 points 1 month ago

But that is Turkey forbidding it correct ? They can change their mind if the wind blows east-south east of any other direction than up really

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Blyats spreading themselves thin.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago
[-] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

Soviet Union: Strength: 43,000 soldiers

I guess if Putin's got 43k soldiers lying around.

[-] Opisek@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

If not, he'll just draft the women and children, too.

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Bringing the ships into waters completely monitored by countries friendly to Ukraine, and surrounded by a number of launching points for sabotage actions by basically anyone.

It would be a risky move if anybody cared about their navy, or felt it was a threat.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

This the same navy that couldn't keep their boats afloat in Crimea? Oooh, very intimidating!

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