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[-] WereCat@lemmy.world 95 points 5 months ago

looks around and names random objects

Uh.. Barbed wire, crushed tin can, gate to hell.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 81 points 5 months ago
[-] Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 5 months ago

Sounds like Interstate 5 near LA. Pretty common round there.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Yup. There's a couple entrances around here.

[-] WereCat@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

At the end of highway to hell

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[-] tombruzzo@lemm.ee 68 points 5 months ago

Band: Iron Maiden Album: Iron Maiden Song: Iron Maiden

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 18 points 5 months ago

That's actually a common format in metal

[-] masinko@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

I like the song Children of Bodom by Children of Bodom from the album ~~Children of Bodom~~ Hatebreeder.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 9 points 5 months ago

I like the song witchcraft, by the artist witchcraft, on their debut album witchcraft

[-] synae 8 points 5 months ago

Black Sabbath and Angel Witch also come to mind

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[-] LordAmplifier@pawb.social 60 points 5 months ago

Three Iron Maiden songs? That's easy! Am I Evil, Smoke on the Water, and Ace of Spades. And I'm sure they have a self-titled song, too.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 57 points 5 months ago

Normalise responding with "Name 3 women who trust you that aren't your mother" (I know she counts for 3)

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

For a lot of these fucks, I'd accept family members if it were true. People take low bars as exercises in tripping.

[-] Denjin@lemmings.world 22 points 5 months ago

Bring Your Cousin to the Coven

Ten Minutes til Midday

Fly With Your Shoes On

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Apprehension of the Dusk

Hello, be thou Nate?

Afraid to Frag Randos

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

I have been listening to metal basically half my life (15+ years) but can barely name artists or song names let alone remember lyrics. my memory truly sucks (also does not help that most are not in my native language).

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[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 19 points 5 months ago
  1. Ace of Bass

  2. The Black Album

  3. Oh Say Can You See (By the Dawn's Early Light)

🤘🎸🥁😈

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Only true metal fans will know these songs. DEEP cuts. Very legit.

[-] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago

Never experienced something like that, especially with metal fans who - in my opinion - are some of the most welcoming bunch.

Perhaps it's different in the US, but here in Germany that scenario seems unlikely.

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

In the UK I've found the extremes to be on both sides, although this largely aligns with the punk movement here from decades ago.

Some metal fans are the nicest people you could hope to meet. One guy I met in a bar a month or so ago got talking to me because I noticed his Hatebreed shirt, and we got to talking about music, our kids, and life in general. I remember talking about tummy time with him, and before I left he had called his wife to ask what his daughter really liked, and rushed to give me the link so that I could buy it.

Some are also utter bells. One guy I met years ago gave me shit for liking The Used's set at Taste Of Chaos years ago, despite it basically being an emo festival that he also attended. He apparently only went for Killswitch Engage...so spent a fuck-ton to see one band while he seethed about the rest. I met another guy in a bar a year or so ago that was a huge dick to some women because one of them wore a Sleep Token shirt. He kept asking them to say what their favourite songs were, gave them shit because they were the newer songs, and then went on a rant about how they're not even a metal band because they "basically do pop now".

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[-] bushvin@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

An excellent flemish metal band made a song about this…

T-shirt van Metallica

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

MFW I go there for their take on it and the lyrics are as Flemish as the band 😄

[-] bushvin@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Here’s a translation which is close…

In our time I would have knocked you on your face set your hair on fire, hid your sandwiches Cause I can't stand that you wear something by the Ramones and that you know nothing about them when I ask you about them And how about those fancy vans on your feet Were the k-swis on, you're gonna pay for that shouldn't you be jumping around with a red bull vodka instead of walking around with a Metallica t-shirt Look there's a john-ny with a t-shirt of Me-tal-li-ca ok chill look, there used to be johnny's Ugly marinas with buffaloes and ponies every day of the week at war with skaters with adidas, pumas or vans with no laces But I found that segregation very practical at the time for us it was nirvana and for them songs about barbies now it's ruined, all gone to shit because there's a Johnny with a Metallica t-shirt. Look there's a Johnny with a Metallica T-shirt

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Personally, I get where they're coming from. I too was a metalhead and grunge fanatic who considered people who preferred pop and techno music a different species and a hostile one at that.

I'd since grown up, though, and found that, while it's good to belong to a community, "the others" wearing its trappings doesn't detract from it or the good memories and gatekeeping is just a petty thing to do IMO 🤷

Edit: fixed my spell check apparently thinking that gatekeeping is behavior typical of Tom Petty, since it capitalized the word 😄

[-] bushvin@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Well, here’s a spoiler: their songs are basically satire. They also have songs on BMW drivers, indian/pakistani nightshop owners, vegans, …

It is true, everybody should be allowed to wear what they like.

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[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago

I'll give you the names of 3 future iron maiden songs just by having a look at Bruce Dickinson's DVR

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago
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[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
  • Ghost of the navigator
  • Passchendeale
  • Powerslave
[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

damn, not even the low hanging fruit

[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

They are some of my favorite.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

People listing Iron Maiden songs missing the entire point.

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

2 Minutes to Midnight

Aces High

Wasted Years


I'm gonna get a lot of shit for this, but I never really liked Iron Maiden and Slayer.

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[-] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Pfft.

Without even looking: Prowler, Remember Tomorrow, Phantom of the Opera, Running Free, Transylvania, Charlotte the Harlot, Iron Maiden's gonna getcha no matter how far, Iron Maiden wants you for dead!

Man, I love the first two albums. Paul couldn't sing much but he screamed really well.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 months ago

It's been a minute since I listened to them, so I would probably get it wrong.

If anyone needs me I'll be over here listening to Van Canto

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[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 5 points 5 months ago

Forgive my ignorance but I don't see why that's an unreasonable request

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 29 points 5 months ago

She doesn't owe him anything.

It's basically accusing her of cultural appropriation, just for wearing a t-shirt she likes.

The question implies skepticism that she is an authentic fan. It's a form of gatekeeping, based in misogyny and rigid social conformity.

Even if she doesn't really know iron maiden's music, so what? It's perfectly reasonable to choose your shirts based on styles and colours you like. I wore a Popeye the sailor t-shirt yesterday, I would not be prepared to talk about my favorite episodes.

[-] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

What if she was a man instead?

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In what reality is it important to pull someone's card. You can ask anybody wearing a shirt what their favorite song is or if they've seen them live. That's actually acceptable, because you're interested in their subjective experiences. Publically announcing to someone that you want to out-group them over a trivial matter is not.

Edit: and generally, that's how men interact with each other. But some take the existence of a woman in their fandom to be a direct attack on their already incredibly fragile masculinity.

[-] shikogo@pawb.social 11 points 5 months ago

The same holds true? Can't be that hard not to be an asshole.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I disagree that gatekeeping is either of those things. I also don't think it's unreasonable to ask people not to publicly associate themselves with a thing if they know nothing at all about that thing.

The bar is on the floor here.

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

What people choose to associate themselves with in public is exactly fuck all of your business. Don't be like the meme guy, tend to your own garden.

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[-] LwL@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Gatekeeping really is not either of these things, but people can wear whatever they like. I can't say I get why someone would do it at all, but not my problem.

There's a huge difference between using it as a conversation starter and asking about their favorite songs or whatever, since it's reasonable to assume they know and like the band, and going "name 3 songs" because you assume they don't listen to the band and also somehow care about that.

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[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Do you believe that everyone needs to prove their fandom at a moments notice with inane trivia about that thing?

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[-] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In these situations the asker is typically skeptical that your a "real fan", usually because of sexism.

It doesn't really matter how you answer because they're not asking for a genuine conversation, they want a dick measuring contest to prove they are superior. If you do fulfill their request chances are they'll nitpick the songs you chose and still accuse you of being a "fake fan".

Gatekeeping often comes with moving the goalpost so the only winning move is not to play.

A genuine asker would probably ask about your favorites rather than demand they answer trivia.

[-] luves2spooge@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Here's how the conversation could go without sounding like an ass:

Him: Cool shirt. Do you like Iron Maiden?

Her: No, I just like this shirt.

Him: That's cool. They're one of my favourite bands. If you wanna hangout sometime I'd love to introduce them to you?

Maybe not the last sentence but can you get the difference in tone?

[-] cheddar@programming.dev 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

To name three songs or to get away from her?

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