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Ideally one that is forward-thinking, gaming-friendly, and efficient.

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[-] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Mint w Cinnamon DM. Or Mint (Debian Edition) w/Cinnamon as desktop.

Ubuntu or Debian based. Beginner friendly, though not limited to just beginners. Cannot answer the g#ming focused questions because I’m not a g*mer, sorry.

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Ubuntu has good documentation, lots of people use it. Fedora is the other choice. They're both good.

[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

i always just recommend Ubuntu for brand new users. Fedora seems good too but I have less experience with it. for people who want a bit more depth of customisation I would recommend kubuntu or Nobara. I've been using Nobara on my main machine for a few weeks and it's really nice, it's tailored for use on a gaming PC so a lot of nice out of the box stuff like NVIDIA drivers and proton compatibility stuff.

[-] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

I would add on that Bazzite is a good alternative to Nobara, if you want a decent fedora atomic system, that should be basically unbreakable and powered by fedora.

[-] someone@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

I used to recommend Ubuntu for newcomers, but the Snap nonsense makes for a poor experience with many major packages, such as Firefox. For the past few years I've been recommending stock Mint instead. I feel that it's what Ubuntu used to be in terms of a frustration-free experience. A very gentle learning curve and extensive hardware support.

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

I recommend anything Debian-based for the same reason I chose Debian first: If you have a problem, there will be somebody else that did as well and likely fixed it. If you are new, I would suggest Linux Mint or Ubuntu. Another plus is that non-free software is available for these distributions, like Zoom and Discord.

Gaming on Linux is an active area of development, almost single-handedly done by Valve, so this can be hit-or-miss. In general AMD graphics cards fare better with drivers, while nVidia has almost comically piss-poor "official" drivers.

[-] WasteTime@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Linux Mint, Cinnamon DE, it's Ubuntu based but has a Debian edition too. Also, in its official webpage you can download it with other DEs like XFCE or Mate if you need more lightweight options. Super easy to install and most windows users adapt quickly to it.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago
[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Steam Deck is all three of your criteria. Get a Steam Deck.

Then you can use Ubuntu for your laptop or whatever.

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Have one and love it, at the risk of sounding like corpo-ganda.

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Maybe it’s good to shill Valve’s linux products because it’ll encourage more people to use linux which in turn encourages valve to keep developing it since they want a contingency in case Microsoft decides to go rogue

[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 month ago

It is good overall to do this but it shouldn't be a priority. Valve is ultimately just another company and their interests are aligned with the bourgeoisie. We can tactically align with them when it suits our purposes and criticize them when they take positions against the people.

[-] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

You would probably really like Bazzite it’s very similar.

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

I’ve seen this mentioned a few times here and I keep reading it as Brazzers

[-] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

may wanna consider Bazzite, it’s Fedora (atomic) with added optional SteamDeck themes/ui so the experience can be familiar. there are different editions so you can get the one that loads into desktop instead of directly in to gaming for general use, with all the gaming support still available.

[-] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

I like Fedora with GNOME desktop environment, especially if you have a touch screen on your device.

Cinnamon DE on Linux Mint feels a lot like Windows, if that's something you want.

Day to day, the desktop environment is a more impactful decision than the specific distro.

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Pop-OS comes with Nvidia drivers pre-installed if you have their cards which is good because I fucking despise manually installing them. But I also hate how their app store functions. They’re working on revamping this, and it’s looking good, so I recommend this once they release a stable update of their new interface. This is what I use and it’s been fine outside of the app store.

Linux Mint is the most user friendly imo if we are talking casual Windows user who only browsed the web and plays games. Pop might require some CLI usage, but I don’t think you ever need to touch it with Linux Mint.

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

I mean, it all comes down to personal preference. Under the hood they're all pretty much the same, with the exception that some distros use a different package manager.

You'll probably want to stick with one that uses the apt package manager it's very straightforward (all Ubuntu based distros use this).

Ubuntu is the most popular and works out of the box. Personally, I am a huge fan of the KDE environment it's very customisable and looks super slick. Kubuntu and Neon are probably the most prominent distros that use KDE.

[-] fossphi@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lots of great recommendations here. You can't really go wrong with any of them.

But since you mentioned forward thinking (and to some degree gaming friendly), I wouldn't really recommend Mint. It's rock solid but that implies that it's slow moving and not very forward thinking.

Bazzite seems to be a good gaming choice. But sometimes, (rarely) these newfangled immutable distros can be a bit hard to get help for.

So I would recommend going with Fedora.

ETA: What hardware are you planning to run this distro on?

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

An old thinkpad with Intel and Nvidia, and I would like to stick with a distro in the future once that laptop dies off.

[-] fossphi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

You don't have too new hardware so Mint (with its older kernels) wouldn't be a problem. But yeah, sticking with Fedora (or Bazzite) seems like a better option for you

[-] Luna@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I will always reccomend Fedora. It's definetly forward thinking while being stable, and it's easy to game on (most distros are). DNF is also an easy package manager to learn, and looks much more organized than apt does (in my opinion) so you can actually see what's happening. Fedora does also get updates sooner, which can include performance or driver updates.

[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fedora or Mint, probably. Possibly Pop_OS!

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

gaming-friendly

From what I hear, Nobara is good in this regard due to having some stuff come pre-installed. It is Fedora-based, unless I am mistaken.

[-] micnd90@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

I've been daily driving Manjaro on KDE for 8 years. People have philosophical problem with the way Manjaro is run, but for practical use it has been great. Manjaro is essentially Arch, so you can get all the bleeding edge Arch packages within weeks delay. The Manjaro team usually try to catch if there is a disastrous rolling update upstream. People usually accept that Arch breaks once a year or so, in my 8 years experience with Manjaro it broke twice. It will break even less if you don't update your packages as often, and for most users you don't need to have bleeding edge packages on kernel level (you can update your browser separately from whole system upgrade).

Arch snobs look down on Manjaro, and they made one mistake DDOSing the Arch repo that they will never live down. But I find that Manjaro has the right balance between the bleeding edge of rolling release and usability.

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's not just snobbery, the project is poorly run in some ways. But if it works, it works, I won't tell you you shouldn't use it.

My bad experiences with it are mostly niche issues with a certain device they supported, and conflicts they had with open source devs about pulling in unreleased, untested code fixes early, causing tons of bogus bug reports to be filed back with the upstream developers, but having their SSL certificates expire repeatedly wasn't confidence inspiring either, and in the meantime arch had improved somewhat in user-friendliness.

Arch still has its flaws (not allowing ARM packages in their repos/AUR is the big one for me, that shit sucks), so I don't really have a horse in this race. on servers I've come around to liking debian a lot after some recent experiences, but I gotta admit having a polished UI out of the gate is nice and back in the day at least, I didn't get that with arch or debian.

[-] allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

Ew fuck KDE. I forget what the really pretty one Manjaro usually comes with is called.

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

https://manjaro.org/products/download/x86 I've only ever used manjaro with KDE but I guess XFCE and GNOME are out there too

[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

You can try out Bazzite, which is what Valve's SteamOS looks like if it were ever released to the public. It has the widest hardware support on Linux, updates are all atomic meaning they can be rolled back and applied easily, has a community constantly improving on it etc.

Otherwise you can install Linux Mint, there is a new major edition of Linux mint releasing this month (version 22 Wilma) so you should wait for that to release.

[-] fossphi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

[Bazzite] has the widest hardware support on Linux

Wait, what? What makes you say that?

[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Their images are designed to work on most hardware, there's images for nvidia cards, portable handheld gaming devices, framework laptops, ASUS laptops etc. They also have special hardware packages for specific peripherals (like razer keyboards).

[-] Titou@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

It depend of your linux skills and what you want. For beginners i recommend mint, for advanced users i recommend debian or arch.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don't want to think, more used to using Windows -> Linux Mint (Cinnamon edition)

Don't want to think, more used to using Mac -> Ubuntu

Picky, have a weekend to kill -> Look through the screenshots for Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and all the Linux Mint variations. Download all the ones that look nice, and try them out on a live USB. Spend some time to fiddle with the file browser, web browser, and software center. Install your favorite.

Willing to tinker with stuff to fit your exact crotchety old fart preferences, so long as you rarely have to do anything to maintain it -> Look through the desktop environments (Gnome, MATE, Cinnamon, KDE, etc etc), choose your favorite, and look up how to install it on either Debian or Fedora.

Would enjoy ongoing tinkering and maintenance as a hobby to get it just right for you -> Arch

[-] Babs@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

I'm a dummy who uses Mint and it does all the thingies I need it to.

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