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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world

A pediatric doctor at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia was killed while riding her bike in Center City on Wednesday night.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/deadly-3-car-crash-rittenhouse-philadelphia/3915690/

The original post on the Philadelphia subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/philadelphia/comments/1e5wkv0/insane_accident_on_18th_and_spruce/

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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 217 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A pediatric doctor at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia was killed while riding her bike in Center City on Wednesday night.

The use of passive voice in the first sentence does a lot of work shifting blame away from the driver and the car centric systems in an "objective" effort.

How about:

Cyclist Barbara Friedes died when the driver of a car hit her in the bike lane on Wednesday night.

[-] PedestrianError@towns.gay 40 points 4 months ago

@apfelwoiSchoppen @ByteOnBikes Active voice would be, “A driver killed…”

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

They're both active voice, they just have different verbs.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yep, high school grammar 101. It isn't that journalists don't know this, it is how they are trained. Shift obvious blame away from parties for objectivity until a verdict or deference to the status quo.

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[-] Bademantel@feddit.de 30 points 4 months ago

Very interesting, thank you. I was wondering if that also happens in other countries. It is sadly the norm in Germany when reporting car accidents.

[-] mrpants@midwest.social 9 points 4 months ago

Even the word "accident" is part of that downplaying.

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 months ago

Somebody told me that at her hospital they don't say "accident" since it's always preventable. They say "collision"

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[-] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago

Ärztin wurde von Auto erfasst und erlag ihren Verletzungen.

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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Used to subversively reinforce power or the status quo:

"Police killed/murdered by man." "Man was killed in police raid."

"Israeli killed/murdered by Palestinians." "Palestians were killed in airstrike on hospital targeting Hamas."

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[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 4 months ago

"Car driver kills doctor on bicycle"

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[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 months ago

They would probably need a conviction before they could publish that.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What that she died? Absolutely not. There is no accusation or assignment of guilt. It tells what happened, assignment comes later. A driver did hit her and kill her, for which there can be many reasons it occurred.

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[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 93 points 4 months ago

As a CAR PERSON if we'd just use all the money spent on roads to build public transport and walkable streets and we wouldnt need to pay a road tax for cars we could just use the money to build racetracks to enjoy fast cars. Every problem solved. Also if a few people just race sometimes and people dont commute by car every day, pollution form gas cars wouldnt be a problem.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As a fellow car person I endorse this idea fully. It would also be great to increase the knowledge and skill levels required for a license.

Also, make every car manual so people can't use their phones while driving.

Edit: What if we turned old mall parking lots into racetracks?

[-] skizzles@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago

I agree with this too, except that last bit. Making a car manual has a near zero affect on people's use of phones when driving.

I say this as someone that used to use T9 to text when driving a manual car. Mind you that was 20 ish years ago when I was a stupid teenager, but there really was no difference between manual/automatic and using my phone when driving other than the added step of shifting.

[-] Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 months ago

To be fair, texting via t9 on physical buttons was way safer than fumbling around on a touch screen. I dit it blindly all the time.

[-] skizzles@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

You aren't wrong lol.

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Also, make every car manual so people can't use their phones while driving.

Can confirm that back when it was still legal, I was using my phone while driving a manual car

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[-] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 23 points 4 months ago

As a car person in a city that used to have a race track, heck yeah! No more sideshows in neighborhoods too!

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[-] MacGuffin94@lemmy.world 77 points 4 months ago

My idea to address unfit elderly drivers is once you start claiming SS you have to take the physical driving test every 2 years then every year once you turn 80. 69 might not be old for some people but could be debilitating for others.

[-] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 54 points 4 months ago

Honestly, every licensed driver should have to retake a test every ~5 years.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 18 points 4 months ago

Even recreational air pilots need a retake every 2 years, and they aren't a top 10 cause of death.

Make it yearly.

[-] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 8 points 4 months ago

Make it yearly.

Imagine that DMV line! You'd have to book next year's appointment at the conclusion of your test. Heaven help you is you have to reschedule. Haha!

[-] udon@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Opportunity to create jobs!

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

And the test needs to be way, way harder than it is now. In my state you just drive around the block and then parallel park. No highway driving requirement, no emergency maneuvers, no reaction time test.

[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago

The USA should adopt a similar driving license program to Germany and the EU.

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[-] graymess@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago

Disagree. Tying it to SS just means it's a requirement for retirees who need government assistance. Rich old people driving the biggest, fastest cars will get to continue driving recklessly. Same thing with the person below who said the test should be incredibly expensive. Disagree. That only hurts the poor who may rely on their car in cities with terrible public transit infrastructure. In-car driving tests should simply be mandatory every few years for all drivers.

[-] PedestrianError@towns.gay 41 points 4 months ago

@MacGuffin94 @ByteOnBikes Drivers can be unfit &/or negligent at any age. The focus should be on a safe system: streets that naturally limit speed so that crashes that do happen are less severe, vehicles that are appropriately sized and simple to operate, required features like automatic braking and speed limiters, and attractive options like walkable destinations and efficient transit.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 18 points 4 months ago

Can be, yes.

But are at a statistically significant rate above & below a certain threshold.

Young kids and old folks cause a significant portion of all fatal accidents yet our society provides them no alternatives.

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

If this was made law, the boomers would get public transit funded so fast.

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[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago

Damn that's horrible to see. Spruce Street is so nice too. There is no point to speeding in Philly. There are stop signs or lights every block so you have to come to stop frequently, speeding won't save you any time.

[-] sping 52 points 4 months ago

So many people just can't understand this. In dense city streets your journey times are usually decided by how long you spend waiting in queues and barely affected at all by your top speed. Which is why you can get around a city by bike faster than by car, even though few transportation riders cruise at much more than ~16mph/25kph on the flat.

I used to think that people just hadn't thought this through and realized it, but I've had a few online discussions where it's clear some people are just flat out incapable of understanding that when there's congestion, speeding to a traffic queue most often just means a longer wait in the queue, not a shorter journey time.

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

"speeding to a traffic queue most often just means a longer wait in the queue, not a shorter journey time."

Total agree this this statement. I personally drive near the absolute posted limit, or below. I also don't gun it to the next red light to wait in queue.

Once you shift your driving style to minimise waiting at the next light (which usually means driving the posted limit) you will find the light turns green just before you arrive at the intersection. Traffic engineers usually time traffic signal this way as well.

This means your commute will feel less congested, you will still arrive at your end destination at the same time, and personally feel a little more calm and relaxed.

Though I do have to say if people are speeding behind you and being aggressive, let them pass you (don't speed-up). They will just get stuck at the next red, and you will just roll up right behind them with no extra time added to your arrival. Them having saved no time all well.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Once you shift your driving style to minimise waiting at the next light (which usually means driving the posted limit) you will find the light turns green just before you arrive at the intersection. Traffic engineers usually time traffic signal this way as well.

There's a street in my town where the lights are timed such that if you drive the 25mph speed limit you don't have to stop.

That is unless there's a bunch of idiots who insist on speeding to a red light, only to stop for five seconds. Then you have get stuck behind them and you also have to stop.

I wish there was some way to communicate to people that they're on a stretch of road like that so they know that going the speed limit is actually faster and easier than gunning it only to stop again a quarter mile ahead.

Edit: It would be super if car drivers thought streets with bike lanes worked like this. If enough of the streets actually do that, maybe it would get them to slow down next to all bike lanes.

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[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago

Every major US city I have ever been in is full of dumb idiot assholes with cars that cost twice what I have ever managed to make in a year, racing from stop light to stop light as fast as possible, braking at the last minute.

There are days I have wished I could get away with making an Ocean's 11 style EMP, purely to disable every car in a 2 mile radius.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

There’s plenty to show that tailgating is the entire reason for “rush hour” traffic. Not allowing others to merge safely means you end up with people being cut off or slowed down constantly. Everyone wants to be going the fastest but no one wants to go the quickest.

I leave a huge amount of space on the highway and cruise at a more constant speed to avoid this issue. It always helps traffic behind me flow better. My favourite was a guy behind me who was super pissed off and ran into the on-ramp lane to pass me, honked a bunch, floored it, and then had to slam on the brakes to avoid absolutely obliterating the car in front of me. My car is 50in tall, it’s not hard to see around but people just don’t get it. I figured it out by myself the very first time I went on the highway and yet…

It’s different at lights and stuff, of course, but only a little. Regardless it just goes to show that people have no idea what they’re doing and a whole lot of pent up rage to really make it “fun”.

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[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

At the time of the deadly crash, police say, Friedes was wearing a helmet and was riding in a protected bike lane. The driver of the vehicle that struck Friedes has not yet been charged.

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Not really a protected bike lane. The car driver entered the bike lane, at high speed, without obstructions.

I just looked at Google Street View. No fucking protection.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 4 months ago

Yeah, not surprising that the cops have no fucking clue what protected means.

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[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm a bit confused that the article says "protected" bike lane but the aerial shot shows no barriers? What exactly is meant by "protected", because to me (and to google) protected means at least some kind of barrier.

[-] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

It's protected by a white line that shows cars aren't allowed to cross over it?

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[-] wolfeh@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

The driver of the vehicle is 69 years old, police said. He was taken to a nearby hospital after suffering minor injuries. He has not been charged.

I'm sorry, what?

[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

implied: "yet". It means they are still writing down a list of things to charge him, some of which require waiting for property damage evaluations and so on.

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[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

He was replying to a very important email. You can't multitask as well at that age. The cyclist should have known better, obviously.

[-] signor@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

How those cars that fucked up on a city street like that? Chronic speeding and distracted driving are a stupid combo.

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