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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 118 points 1 month ago

"Don't protest my genocide unless you want another guy who will do genocide to win" is a hell of a hill to die on, copmala

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 113 points 1 month ago

This is such a brunch lib response. They definitely know who their base is, and its not people who care about genocide

[-] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 1 month ago

its not people who care about genocide

You mean people who care about false genocides like the one supposedly in Ukraine and China.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago

only-throw only false genocides

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 107 points 1 month ago

There's the tone-deaf idiocy we expect from the Democrats. Whew.

[-] KamalaHarris@hexbear.net 55 points 1 month ago

Don't worry, there's plenty more where that came from! power-stride

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 46 points 1 month ago

Yeah after a streak of looking like they want to win this was my "ah, there's the Democrats I know" moment.

[-] sandinista209@hexbear.net 92 points 1 month ago

The fact that most Americans think this is what a progressive looks like shows how fucked we are.

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Teddy Roosevelt is most American's idea of a progressive

[-] miz@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Donald Trump Jr. is our most progressive politician and once all the megafauna is extinct it will no longer be possible to be progressive

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Donald Trump is the megafauna, he is tragically the last remaining endling of the North American Woods Ape, Bigfoot himself.

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[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

My main cultural knowledge of Teddy Roosevelt is the extremely weird hard on old Cracked had for the guy

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Dude regularly touted the sort of rhetoric we would call 'White Genocide' today. Shaming white women who didn't want to have children and stuff like that.

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He was a jock and a bully and people do enjoy that he would occasionally bully upper class people. That was cool but it was simply downstream from it him being terrible to everyone

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[-] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 76 points 1 month ago

I was hoping Kamala would at least have the sense to pin Gaza on Joe and say that she supported the UN and ICJ or something like that, but she really is committed to just continuing the genocide on her own watch exactly as it's going now huh.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure she already said as much.

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago
[-] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

Nothing ever happens.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 61 points 1 month ago

oh yeah? how about fuck you

[-] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 59 points 1 month ago

it-is-happening-again

cedar-rapids's response to BLM protesters

[-] Thallo@hexbear.net 53 points 1 month ago

We need to see what can be (a Jewish ethnostate), unburned by what has been (decades of indigenous resistance)

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 51 points 1 month ago

Lmao a turbolib in a discord I'm in shared this clip saying its an example of the viral clips that will help her which is so funny.

[-] imaginaryplaces@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

"If anything it's the way they protested that undermined their cause since they wouldn't let her speak and they kept interrupting."

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

Remember when BLM protesters interrupted Bernie and he actually shut up and let them talk?

He may be flawed but the US is still worse off without him

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

I mean, what a fall you would have to take to shut them down after a long history of activism for them. To go from getting arrested protesting with them, to silencing their continued protest, what a fall that would be.

[-] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nice representative "democracy" we have. Glad to know the VP represents her constituents. Heil Cocomala Harnut!

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 44 points 1 month ago

volcel-kamala Do not protest. Do not protest.

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

template here, this is an update to a previous image that had Jill Biden in a white suit from a magazine cover

[-] asante@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

that is so infantilising i can't even

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

the adults are doing genocide, sweaty

[-] asante@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago
[-] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

it was never a real democracy.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

I honestly feel sick to my stomach about how it seems people have just stopped caring about Palestine since Joe dropped out. I see way more people do the "Trump would be worse" thing, even a lot of people who trashed the concept beforehand! And so many more people are suddenly talking about it like a "minor foreign policy issue."
It felt like something was in the air, something was about to happen, something was about to change and now people are supporting genocide and talking about harm reduction again.

[-] hypercracker@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

It's just copium hope that kamala will be better on Palestine. There is a lot of evidence that it isn't true but people hope it is since she doesn't own the past 300 days of slaughter.

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[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Last time the Dems won without Michigan was 1976. I've thought the Dems were making better moves in recent weeks but idk, this seems dumb as hell. I don't expect her to do anything good about the genocide, but actively antagonizing pro-Palestine people seems stupid.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I knew this was going to happen, I said it the day Joe dropped out. People voting uncommitted were a mixed demographic of actual principled voters standing against a genocide, and disillusioned liberals who wanted anyone but Joe Biden to run. I believe the latter is the larger group. Like others have said after the fact, Kamala ticks all the liberal identity boxes, and now, Waltz also slots right in to cover all the other groups.

My understanding, too, is that the rest of the audience tried to shout them down, which is telling. The way this was relayed to me when I first heard about it was via a TikTok where the commentator referred to the chanters as "Hecklers", also telling. Reports are, Harris, before taking the stage, spoke with leaders of the uncommitted group and wanted to get contact information to start a dialog, ~~expressing interest in a possible arms embargo against Israel (I have not verified this)~~ See this comment for more details.

But if that was true, why is this the response she gives to their chants? What is she signaling in this moment? She's clearly not talking to them, but instead talking to everyone else in the room. Her words are painting the chanters as opposition. She tries at least one time before this comment to calm their chants. Did they get under her skin, and is this a raw reaction to their disruption? Is it a calculated message? Either could be true.

If she really was trying to make a connection with this group of voters before getting on stage, then why did she not take the opportunity to address the issue? Why not say on stage that she is coordinating conversations with their group, that she wants to hear them out directly, and that their concerns are valid? Either this is a true showing of her actual political savvy (as in, a lack thereof), or she is giving up the game right here in front of them.

Regardless of intention, the message is loud and clear. Vocal support for an anti-genocide position from her is in opposition to their campaign. Even if she doesn't believe that, her words imply it. As others have pointed out, Michigan is an important state, and the voters who can make or break their chances are not white well-meaning liberals, they are Muslim Americans who have real stakes at play. The position of the next president on Israels Genocide have real, material impact on them, and I doubt they will remain silent about it.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

I’d be interested in any evidence supporting this part, because it feels like cover and entirely contradicted, as you pointed out, by her actions in the speech

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[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

👏👏🙌🙌

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

From reddit-logo

Can you imagine having the absolute PRIVILEGE necessary to be a single-issue Gaza voter in this election? With abortion, voting, and LGBTQ rights on the line and Harris being the only thing standing in Project 2025’s way, and they’re gonna campaign against her? I cannot fathom the blinders these people have on.

2 awards, thousands of upvotes

[-] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Googling “how to throttle author of an internet comment telepathically”

[-] hypercracker@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Imperial violence never comes home. You can lend massive material support to the slaughter of tens of thousands of people while suppressing anybody who thinks that's bad and it doesn't affect your home society at all. Not a lot of people know this, it's a bit of a pro gamer move.

[-] Philosophosphorous@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

close friends are straight up telling others to vote kamala 'because project 2025' in the most cringe liberal manner possible.

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Joe Biden's mush brain isn't the only reason they've been avoiding public events. This was the other big reason, and will remain a big problem for them.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

I wonder if their honeymoon phase with Kopmala will end before or after the election. The protests need to continue. Genocide is genocide, and until there’s a stop to it, they shouldn’t have a single moment of peace.

[-] Darth_Reagan@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

anyone have a link to the clip?

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