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If buying it isn't owning it... (lemmy.world)

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[-] doodledup@lemmy.world 109 points 4 months ago

Buy Blu-rays. Highly underrated.

The sound and video quality is the best you'll get anywhere.
It selectively supports the movies and artists you like.
You get amazing extras and documentaries about the movie.
Nobody can take the movie away from you.
You can rip the disc with MakeMKV to view digitally with Jellyfin.

[-] peastea@feddit.org 37 points 4 months ago

According to this site the average lifespan of the cheapest type of bluray is 5-10 years. So a personal backup with makemkv (and maybe handbrake) might not be a bad idea.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 4 months ago

That's for recordable discs.

[-] peastea@feddit.org 4 points 4 months ago

True. I missed that. With 10-20 years the general point still stands though. There should be quite a few movie blurays out there that are close to the end of their life.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 4 months ago

It's based on the same stuff as CDs and DVDs.

I don't think they last forever, but if the CDs and DVDs aren't failing in mass numbers yet, I don't see why the Blu-ray discs would be.

Estimate for CD lifespans was in the 100 year range, but the only way to really put that to the test is to try them in 100 years.

How they're stored probably plays a major role as well. Most of mine are just stored in my living room in the boxes they came in. If you leave them lying in direct sunlight, or attics and garages at unusual temperatures and humidity levels, they'll likely die a lot sooner.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Estimate for CD lifespans was in the 100 year range, but the only way to really put that to the test is to try them in 100 years.

FWIW, I have some CDs that are pushing 40+ years at this point. They work fine, scratches and all.

In my experience, CDRs and other record-able media can't handle a single summer in a hot car. Mistakes were made. If you have your hands on anything like that, I agree: focus there first for your data hoarding activities.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, definitely had a few CD-Rs die in the car. We don't normally have particularly extreme weather in the UK so they last a few years normally. The combination of CD player heat, engine heat and summer heat makes them the temperature of a hot drink. They don't like that.

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[-] renzev@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

It's a shame that in the age of the internet, we still sometimes have to buy physical in order to actually own things. I like buying CD's for music that I really really like, but most of the time I just get a digital copy from Bandcamp. It's cheaper and doesn't clutter up my house. It's a shame that there's nothing like bandcamp for movies (at least as far as I know).

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I completely understand the sentiment here, but I have to respectfully disagree with part of your argument.

The internet itself is this fundamentally ephemeral, thing. Our relationship to it, as a medium, has persisted for decades at this point and may continue to do so for a long time. At the same time, it lives and dies by the whims of corporations and millions of other users, and so its trajectory is largely beyond the control of any one individual. It's like this by design: properties like distributed control, flexible routing, easy duplication/destruction of data, give it resilience but also make it temporary. This also makes it a volatile place to keep things permanently, which is a real problem for a lot of different mediums.

With that in mind, there exists a lot of media today that has no non-digital equivalent. So, having a local data cache you control - DVD, BluRay, forvever moving data between online services, even a personal NAS - is the only hedge you can get for the net's volatility. And even then, that medium has a service life.

So I don't think it's a shame, per se, that things are like this now. Rather, it always has been. It's never been easier to consume (and pirate) media online, but the underlying rules have not changed.

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[-] Persen@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Some people probably sell torrents of their movies, but I haven't seen it yet

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[-] generichate1546@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 4 months ago

Don't start buying records off band camp, it addictive

[-] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 months ago

Found a movie I couldn't buy digitally, but could buy the bluray.

It's a forgotten art form. There were hidden things in the menus and fun little menu transitions.

And it was trivially easy to make my own digital copy. I fully support this post.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago

I have too many Blu-rays with unskippable ads at the start. I really don't need to be shown ads for movies that came out 5 years ago before being allowed to watch the movie I purchased and own.

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[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Thing is, nobody owns a Blu-ray player.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 months ago

Why not? They're cheap as fuck now, and if you have a xbox one or ps4 or newer (one that still has a disc drive), you already have a fucking blu ray player.

[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

My last console was a N64. I still play those old games on occasion. My PC gaming experience isn't equalled by consoles. I'd actually buy a Blu-ray player for my PC, it's connected to my TV and sound system - but I hate most of the movies made today. Maybe I still will, just to preserve some old classics in my library.

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[-] moody@lemmings.world 12 points 4 months ago

Playstation 3, 4, and 5 sold a combined 280 million units, that's a decent number of Blu-Ray players.

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[-] portuga@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think basically that’s it. I don’t even have a CD player to rip my own CDs

Edit: guess that’s on me, though

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[-] suction@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Turns out some things the damn Gen Z guys were using are actually bussin fr no cap

[-] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

How high res is bluray?

[-] AliasVortex@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

1080 for most disks, with 4K when marked ultra hd. It's worth noting disk video is usually ~~uncompressed~~ much less compressed, so it may very well look better than a stream of the same resolution.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 15 points 4 months ago

It’s worth noting disk video is usually uncompressed

Just being a bit pedantic here, but they're much less compressed since their source is generally the original recordings. Anything you get from streaming services is much more heavily compressed, and anything you're likely to pirate is compressed from DVD or Blu-ray sources (or worse, they can be compressed from already compressed streaming sources.)

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[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 76 points 4 months ago

That's far Cry 6 for me. Bought it off the epic site when it first came out and it didn't work because of the drm. (Needed sse 4.3? which my old assed pc doesn't have.)

Downloaded a cracked torrent, worked like a charm.

[-] PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Guess the drm could only run on sse4. Or the devs were paid off to put that check into their game to help sell more pcs. Probably both.

[-] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I feel old, alright?

If you bought a thing to be used for the thing on the thin, then download a backup for that thing on the thin.... Tired of typing it...

Certainly a beautiful buccaneer.

Or sweaty swashbuckler.

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[-] Xenny@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Every goddamn time. Do I need to pull out the gaben.jpg?

[-] tourist@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

is that the mosaic of genitals used to construct his portrait

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago

To their credit, Denuvo has been very effective for the past year. Now instead of playing some games I wouldn't have bought anyway, I just don't play them.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 6 points 4 months ago

Windows only :(

[-] andrewth09@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In a perfect world:

Game publisher release Game with DRM
DRM gets cracked by pirates
Game publisher acknowledges the DRM has been cracked and compiles a new binary without DRM and redistributes it to customers.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago

in the perfect world we still need to crack the drm?

[-] andrewth09@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In a perfect world no one would pirate video games. So I guess this is more of a realistic compromise.

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 28 points 4 months ago

But you don't understand, this time my DRM experts assure me it will take at least two days to crack this time! (for realsies this time)

[-] LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org 20 points 4 months ago

If you can't build it from source, you don't own it.

Paying is just a courtesy.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Jellyfin has changed my life.

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Why would pirates cut into our revenue!

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

This topic always reminds me of one of my co-op jobs where I was working with a piece of software to develop an importer for its file format. Getting the software running properly with its licensing system took a couple of weeks. We had the license all along, but it used a license server that needed to be set up on my machine, plus a dongle that it used.

Once it was up and running, I did like the software and one day decided to also use it to produce files for a personal project I was doing for fun at home. Downloaded a pirated version and had it running by that evening no issue.

The DRM just made for a crappy experience for the paying customer and wasn't even noticed by those it was meant to prevent using their software.

Though I now wonder if that was deliberate because they'd still catch that in corporate audits (I think? Not really sure how those work tbh), so allowing individual users to easily bypass the DRM could help them build market share that they get paid for by businesses buying licenses when users say it's their preferred platform.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

I've just come back to piracy after such a long time, and things are still the same, it's like meeting an old trusty friend again.

[-] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I was gonna say "trusty?" But in all honesty I'd much rather trust digital pirates than corporations.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Pirates actually have consequences for pushing malware, companies don't.

[-] ObamaBinLaden@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Whack

[-] Nikls94@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Yarr harr

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