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[-] finkrat@lemmy.world 150 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Anyone else stupidly bothered by the fact that he used a green reverse? If he's playing Uno he needs to match the color

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 73 points 3 months ago

Not if the yellow card which we can't see the front of is also a reverse card.

[-] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

But then how did he get to play?

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

An out of frame third player?

[-] anubis119@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Oh no, I've gone cross-eyed.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 45 points 3 months ago

Absolute discrace. I bet he didn't even draw it fairly from the deck either.

[-] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 39 points 3 months ago

Fuck. I'd never noticed that. Fuck you very much, now I can't unsee it.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 29 points 3 months ago

Ruins the whole thing, really.

[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 46 points 3 months ago

Here's the thing. You said a "dolphin is a whale."

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a scientist who studies whales, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls dolphins whales. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "whale family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Cetacea, which includes things from porpoises to belugas to orcas.

So your reasoning for calling a dolphin a whale is because random people "call the big ones whales?" Let's get whale sharks and great whites in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A dolphin is a dolphin and a member of the whale family. But that's not what you said. You said a dolphin is a whale, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the whale family whales, which means you'd call vaquitas, bottlenose, and other marine mammals whales, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

[-] joshcodes@programming.dev 15 points 3 months ago

So reading up on the evolution of whales for arguments sake has me realising all dolphins and whales are (as mentioned) from the same family.

Your traditional whale fits into "Baleen Whales (Mysticeti)" which have "soft, hair like structures on the upper mouth" and there are 16 species and 3 families.

Meanwhile there are also "Toothed Whales (Odontceti)" with 76 species and 10 families. They are smaller, actively hunt and almost always live in pods.

The most surprising thing I've learned is that the Baleen Whales typically have two blow holes...??? Also they do not echolocate but they do sing/chat.

So almost all your traditional large whales fit into the Baleen category and the traditional dolphin fits into the Toothed category. So there are key differences between them, but the overall family is whale.

This is a dumb argument huh

[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago
[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Here's a hint.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

Holy shit that was a decade ago.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

A dolphin is a dolphin and a member of the whale family. But that's not what you said. You said a dolphin is a whale, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the whale family whales, [...]. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

You lost me here. OP never said dolphins aren't dolphins. They also never said other non-dolphin members of the whale family wouldn't be called whales. Where are you getting that from?

[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 months ago
[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 12 points 3 months ago

I swear to you, I almost said "is this some sort of copypasta" but I didn't wanna sound like I was accusing you of bad faith discussion or something 🤣

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You played the Uno Reverse card in the replies.

Well played. I'm impressed.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

....except Dophins definitely are whales. This is not the same as corvids and crows.

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 3 months ago

If you go back far enough, whales are a type of fish, just like us humans

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago

Either that or fish aren't a phylogenetic group. You decide

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Have I got a podcast for you!

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

You can't evolve out of a clade, or so they say.

Of course it's not helpful to call humans and whales fishes in common parlance. But in phylogenetics, why not?

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Because that would make fish and vertebrates synonyms so why not drop the former altogether?

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

Words can mean more than one thing thought, and depending on the context it can be useful to convey the fact that the vertebrates all evolved from fish-like ancestors, or that whales are more closely related to some fish than those fish are related to other fish.

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

And it's totally valid to use it that way even though I wouldn't. That's the "You decide" part of my first comment

[-] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

Who has ever said that dolphins aren't whales?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago

Who said someone said dolphins aren't whales?

[-] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Have you looked at the meme I'm commenting on?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If by whales you meant killer whales specifically people do say that. They also generally know that dolphins are whales, some people just so excited to correct others they don't think any further.

[-] joshcodes@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago

Dolphins are whales with teeth, a distinction that makes them just slightly not whales

[-] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

Sperm whales? Beaked whales? Also several river dolphins!

[-] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 6 points 3 months ago

Transphobes, at least once that I saw.

[-] kriz@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 months ago
[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago
[-] kriz@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago

Kind of a cutesy medium if true

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Still pretty big compared to a herring..

[-] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Bet you could cut down a pretty tall tree with that bad boy.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

First, you must get us A SHRUBBERY!

One that looks nice. And not too expensive.

[-] s_s@lemmy.one 8 points 3 months ago

The space between a wale's blowhole and their teeth isn't their forehead, it's an enlarged upper lip.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 2 points 3 months ago

Capital W, mate.

btw, jacksucksatlife has the exact card.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

I was right about the whales and the dolphins, Whales and dolphins, whales and dolphins, yeah. And I don't mind preserving time at all

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