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It's impressive how duckduckgo manages to be so much better than bing despite being a frontend for bing

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 259 points 1 month ago

Oh my god that's amazing. Instructions on how to do what you're literally doing, dead internet theory is so correct. Instructions for robots by robots

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 91 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Unpopular opinion: dead internet is not only real, but GOOD. Once robots get good enough to autonomously sign up for websites and make convincing posts, this will force us humans to go actually outside, make friends, form deep social relationship, and build lasting, resilient communities. Meanwhile on the internet, websites that are willing to allow AI content for money will eventually die out due to lack of actual users. The only remaining websites will be run by individuals and organizations with non-profit motives, and a strict human-only policy with verification based on word-of-mouth / invite system.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 32 points 1 month ago

The economy was always bots buying from other bots...

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago

this will force us humans to go actually outside, make friends, form deep social relationship, and build lasting, resilient communities

There is no chance it goes that way, how is talking to people outside even an option for someone used to just being on the internet? Even if the content gets worse, the basic mechanisms to keep people scrolling still function, while the physical and social infrastructure necessary for in person community building is nonexistent.

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 114 points 1 month ago

Okay, totally off topic...what is it with this annoying trend of censoring a company/name with an asterisk when it's a subject of ire? It just bugs me - and not in a way that focuses my anger to Microsoft.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago

With stuff like Tesla and Twitter, it can keep away the weird nerds who search those terms in hopes of white-knight-sealioning a conversation into oblivion. I think it just became part of the lexicon.

The inverse of this is that people who filter out specific words in their feeds will be tricked into seeing it. You get to piss off 2 groups of people by doing it!

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[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago
[-] eldoom@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 month ago

Have you ever heard a sea lion? They're super loud and they all get together and bark.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago

Ahahaha that’s great

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/sea-lioning

Sea-Lioning is an Internet slang term referring to intrusive attempts at engaging an unwilling debate opponent by feigning civility and incessantly requesting evidence to back up their claims. The term was coined in September 2014 by anti-GamerGate Internet users to mock perceived online discussion tactics employed by GamerGate supporters.

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

I like the classic Usenet “Micro$oft.” Producers of Microshaft Wind-blows.

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 23 points 1 month ago

It conveys "I have such a disdain for that thing that I'm asterisking its name like it was a slur or swear word".

I'm not a big fan either, even if you can find some secondary roles for that (as keeping someone from finding it, like ilinamorato exemplified). It distracts the reader from what is being said to the author's personal opinion about what is being said.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

It's ironic, except for when we're talking about the Fr*nch. It's self aware humor that you're being ridiculous. The tone it's supposed to convey in situations like thisis that you're being hyperbolically obtuse.

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[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago

And to add insult to injury...

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[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 month ago

Is softonic actually malware or an unreliable repository that may contain malware? I’ve never actually clicked in lol

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago

I unknowingly downloaded some software from there when I was a kid, and, from what I remember, it came bundled with some sort of update manager or something. Even if it's not outright malware, I would wager most people who are looking to download logitech's utility don't want some irrelevant third-party garbage on their system. So AT BEST it's crapware / bloatware

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 21 points 1 month ago

They had some issues with their downloader in the past but that thing has been canned a long time ago. It's not a great site but it isn't malware.

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

That's the beauty of the internet. There's always a competitor. I don't have to use someone who had a bad reputation at one point but is fine now. I can just use someone else.

[-] xpinchx@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

My elderly dad fell for something similar trying to call HP support, he googled the number and the top result was some bullshit. They had him set up remote access and compromised all his data. Old man had to reset everything.

He called me saying what happened, I had him shut down and unplug. I recovered what I could but he lost a lot of data.

This shit should be illegal. Like, I'm sure it is technically but there shouldnt be unofficial sponsored results above legitimate sources.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago

How is Softonic still allowed to advertise it's literally Malware

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[-] bonegolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 month ago

Softonic has to have made a deal with the SEO devil.

Non idea how their disgusting malware is always on top.

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[-] devilish666@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

Softonic be like every app you want we have it, even the non exist ones. But once you installed our apps you already have made a pact with the devil

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[-] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wow reading through these comments makes me a little sad. Most people still don't know jack about search engines or how they differ under the hood, or eve just how to add them into your browser search bar. Looks like all the effort I put into that that simple search engine guide was in vain.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

still looks better than the average Google search

[-] westyvw@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago

Not to defend Bing in anyway, but I typed logitech unifying software and the first result is the download page on logitechs site.

I am not doubting you, but why is it so different for me? I see non of the ???? section, no ads, just a link at the top like you would expect.

What are you using or doing different?

[-] tal@lemmy.today 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Do you have uBlock or some similar ad blocker installed?

EDIT: I went and looked myself. I do have an ad-blocker installed. I don't see the ad. But I do see more noise than OP (desktop, Firefox):

  • There's a set of steps at the top left telling me to download and install the software, which is what OP was complaining about.

  • At the top right, there's a large, blue button with a link that guesses incorrectly that I want to know about Logitech Unifying Receiver Pairing, and just sends me to another Bing search.

  • Beneath that, there are a list of several questions that Microsoft incorrectly thinks I might be wanting to task and their answers.

  • Then there are two "Explore more" links linking me to pages describing how to pair with the software. One appears to link to "logi.com" with apparently is a Logitech business support page that links to the software, albeit only the Mac version, which I'd guess isn't what OP wanted.

  • Back on the left, I have what appears to be an AI spam question-answer site at thewindowsclub.com and another page on "how to unify" at robots.net.

  • Beneath that, I have a link to the Logitech download section. So it's in my top results and on my laptop, visible on the first screen of results, though beneath some not-really-desirable stuff.

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[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

I would give startpage.com a shot i find it works even better than duckduckgo

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[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 25 points 1 month ago

💸 Microsoft 🤑 got 💰 paid 🫰 so... they managed to come out ahead of this whole ordeal just fine.

The rest of us can go suck a bag of dicks for all they care.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Borderline?

There's still DuckDuckGo, or Kagi if you are rich.

[-] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago
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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 24 points 1 month ago

Hey now, that malware has paid to be the top result! Probably using the proceeds scammed out of somebody who downloaded it.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 month ago

Stract.com open search engine a guy built in his basement. It is not perfect but feels like Google used to in the late 90s, when you had real results

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[-] Presi300@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Mainstream search engines (google and bing) are completely useless. Alternatives ftw.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't call bing mainstream

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago

It’s gone really downhill ever since co-pilot

It’s hard to call it better than Google now

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[-] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 month ago
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[-] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

How does Microsoft’s compare to M*crosoft’s?

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[-] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I just use Google with uBlock Origin to get rid of adverts

[-] binom@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

tbf it seems to be a common issue with search engines atm. brave also has the stupid ai response topmost, and startpage without adblock pushes in so many sponsored results that you need to scroll to get to anything else

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