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https://xcancel.com/seriousposter/status/1835054397258117390?t=ze79DXLwGou576C-3m5kVg&s=19

I know it has like 3 likes but I've seen so many people with this view, it's insane 'My uncle went to help them as a missionary but they're hopeless LOL aren't you glad to live in America?'

Meanwhile this is what missionaries do in Haiti:

CW s-----l child abuse https://www.parentsformeganslaw.org/missionary-who-admits-to-sexually-abusing-boys-in-haiti-is-sentenced/

And the UN: CW child grooming https://theconversation.com/they-put-a-few-coins-in-your-hands-to-drop-a-baby-in-you-265-stories-of-haitian-children-abandoned-by-un-fathers-114854

And the fact that this person clearly thinks that they're smarter and superior to every Haitian when they don't even understand production. Racism is a disease, instead of trying to find the answer to this contradiction they conclude 'because they're African lol' they genuinely believe the 67 IQ lie.

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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 71 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

just pluck fruits off trees and spearfish gorgeous fish and lobsters

Literal children's cartoon level understanding of the realities of living on a poor tropical island.

Actually, you know what? I don't think they actually believe that. This is just another example of sartre-antisemites.txt

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

hey I tried to pluck fruit off of trees and then I got shot at and chased away and now my friends are telling me that a "Dole Death Squad" is asking around about me, has this happened to anybody else? what should I do?

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 63 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I once read a guy (CEO btw) say that in capitalism the business owner is the one who produces everything by his will and design, workers merely "polish and assemble widgets".

This is the kind of (literal) magical thinking prevalent in American society.

[–] weeen@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

When I was a kid and first learned about communism I thought wow, the CEOs must study this Marx guy in detail to keep their position in society, it would never work nowadays!! but then I realised they don't understand anything at all.

One of the most beautiful things about modern society is that the son of a white South African pedophile with immense wealth from Zambian emerald mine child labour was able to become the richest man in the world, fumbled his 'cool inventor' reddit persona by calling a diver trying to save children a pedophile, and despite having all the money in the world he can't stop any of his 95 children from disowning him.

This man barely understands anything about society but managed to fail upwards and convinced himself that he's a genius. He lied about read Capital 'in english and then cross-referenced with the german version' what? That's literally a child's idea of what a 'cool genius' person would do.

All his successes are someone else's and all his failures are his own. He's truly the crown jewel (emerald?) of capitalism.

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 62 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Colonizer mentality. "Given them millions". Of course this cracker really believes that all of those "millions" are actually going to the people of Haiti and not into the pockets of NGO executives and compradors.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 57 points 10 months ago

"Foreign aid is when the poor people of a rich country give money to the rich people of a poor country."

[–] Poogona@hexbear.net 57 points 10 months ago

Having grown up around tons of evangelicals who often said shit like this after their missionary summer trips, hearing this conversation as an adult makes me want to fall facedown and turn into undifferentiated slime, the anger just hits the shutdown threshold instantly

Beyond the ability of most people, they visit the poorest places in the world, the places where human dignity is barely holding together, and instead of having even a taste of an understanding of the misery and injustice of it sink in, they bounce off and double down on their learned ability to dismiss the suffering of their fellow man. It took a lot of time to untangle the bitterness I developed toward these petty fucking emotional weaklings from religious people in general

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 54 points 10 months ago

remember when the wikileaks cables showed Hillary Clinton intensely lobbied Haiti to keep the minimum wage from being raised past 15 cents an hour

Honestly I love this little fact, it's a hard filter demonstrating that the naive liberal worldview has no explanatory power whatsoever

[–] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 51 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let’s drop these people in Haiti with no cash or credit card and see them survive.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

I would pay to watch that

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 50 points 10 months ago

Fuck that shit, the last time Haiti had a really good leader, the US and France overthrew him. By the way, in the first real democratic election in Haiti's history, the population voted for a Socdem Catholic priest. But the Haitian elite, who had supported the extreme right-wing dictatorship of the Duvalier family, removed him from power with the help of the US and France. When the people, the left-wing paramilitaries (Haiti had disbanded its army after the coup and counter-coup of the 1990s, so there were these paramilitary groups that were loyal to the goverment and hunted far-right paramiltiaries and gangs) and the loyal police forces tried to resist the coup, US troops began to massacre them.

[–] weeen@hexbear.net 48 points 10 months ago (5 children)

These people feel like they've reached enlightenment by blaming every problem with capitalism on supposed racial inferiority of non-white people. Incredible

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago

Are you ready to be a massive dumbass tool for white christian racism?

peterson-pill-dinner

[–] Poogona@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

Best part of Harrison Bergeron is when he gets blown away by a shotgun at the end just saying

[–] NPa@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

always talking like sephiroth, cringe ass mf'ers

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[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 48 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 45 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Always been that way with these fucks. Heres a nice thought.... Climate change will ravage the global south. Be certain that more fascist shit like this will be used to justify the untold suffering that is to come.

[–] weeen@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This makes me so angry, at least if the US starts nuclear world war over oil or something we'll all be dead. But climate change will barely affect the people that caused it, it's so unfair.

You can already tell that they're going to go Malthusian mode/blame it on the global south while still exploiting them for profits.

[–] NPa@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

cap-think "No one wants to work anymore"

(camera pans to a vast field of skulls in a scorching desert covering the entire southern hemisphere)

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I get a weird spasm of pure rage when people compare climate change to nukes (not calling you out here, my issue is with people who attempt to minimize it with "I lived through the cold war and nuclear bomb drills" when dismissing climate angst) because the threat of nuclear war is inverted compared to climate change: nuclear war requires people to do it willfully. Climate change requires people to do nothing. We're already locked in. We are on the trajectory. If climate apocalypse can be compared to nuclear apocalypse then in this analogy the nukes are already in flight.

And to add even more to it: we still have nukes! We did not get rid of the nukes! You think a world with ecological and resource instability is going to be less inclined to use nukes than the half century of massive industrialization and economic growth after WW2? I would sleep better at night if I was that blessedly naive.

Oh and as for the "we did nuclear drills" shit... kids have school shooter drills. So just.. fuck those minimizers and their bullshit arguments. I hate them. So much.

Sorry for derailing in your Haiti thread but God almighty it strikes a chord in me when I see that kinda shit. So to bring it back to the original topic I believe these people absolutely will support walls and barb wire, auto turrets, guards with shoot-to-kill orders, the sinking of migrant boats with sea mines and naval weaponry. The whole arsenal will be deployed to ensure they are the last ones to feel the full weight of how much they fucked this planet up. And they will abdicate their responsibility while we all spiral into man-made hell and the 'christian missionaries' among them will solemnly hold out their palms in supplication and say "We're sorry, I guess it was God's will this happened."

agony-4horsemen

[–] weeen@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

https://youtu.be/RsLwaauLCfo Yeah I agree with you, it's literally happening right now but it's a global south western ally country so no one cares. (this channel is really good btw, the reactionary looking wojak thumbnails are just to bait chuds) When things get worse there's no reason to believe they won't do this in the west, whether you vote Trump, Kamala, Starmer, Farage, Macron, whoever.

Not to go doomer mode but sometimes it feels like a sick joke, yeah the people who've suffered under this system are going to suffer more as the world melts so I can show you this AI picture of muslims laughing at a white girl on the bus. But we have to keep pushing, this is a critical period for reading, organising and planning.

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[–] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Why do you think both parties are so adamant about bolstering and militarizing the southern border? And reactionary Europeans and their media advocating the same and fomenting fascist petty-bourgeois hatred over it? The refugee and immigrant 'crises' that they're lashing out against and fomenting panic and hate over right now is nothing compared to what the ruling class of the global north know is coming as a result of their incapability and refusal to lift their collective foot from the gas, as we are all turning to see the cliff in the rear window.

I say arm all climate refugees. They already are talked about and treated, and are increasingly going to be, as if they're an "invading army" by fascists and Liberals-pretending-not-to-be-fascists anyway. And if they organized as one in deliberate political action, it would almost certainly be the most justified "invasion" that has ever happened in the history of humanity.

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[–] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago (2 children)

am i wrong or doesn't france TAKE millions of dollars from them because haiti 'owes' them for not being their slaves anymore?

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago

I think those payments are done but they did for many, many years yes

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago

Yes, and the US, instead of being an ally of the only other Western nation independent of the Americans, decided to embargo Haiti. Spain also hated Haiti because Spain wanted to conquer them and Haiti had made an allience with Simon Bolivar, that they would aid him, and he would free all the slaves, which was not a problem to him since he was raised by slaves since his family didn't care about him and his parents were dead.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We needs to go around the country and start doing this

[–] weeen@hexbear.net 31 points 10 months ago

Yep, another slammer niko-dunk

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

FRANCE HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF AGAINST LOUVERTURE'S TERRORISTS

NEVER FORGET AUGUST 21 MASSACRE

DO YOU DENOUNCE DESSALINES?!

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fucking Christian Evangelical filth. Have met many like this in Guatemala and they always come across as insultingly condescending.

I usually switch to my Upstate New York accent when they pull that shit and it ends up scaring them most of the time for some reason lol

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it's the 21st century and literal missionaries exist like it's still the colonial hell of 1624

the global south is suffering, we must send our best dickheads to erase indigenous culture even more and replace it with garbage white culture

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[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago

Holy shit the amount of racism is off the charts, fuck these people entirely and completely. illegal-to-say

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They talk about anywhere black people live like it's Innsmouth

[–] nightshade@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

By the calculation of the Aristide administration in 2004, the French indemnity extracted between $22 and $40 billion from the national treasury.

By the late nineteenth century, 80 percent of Haiti’s wealth was devoted to serving external debts, first to France and then to financial institutions in Germany — and, most notably, the United States. By the turn of the century, the relatively independent and sovereign Haiti had become entangled in a web of debt held by American financial firms.

https://jacobin.com/2017/01/haiti-reparations-france-slavery-colonialism-debt/

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

In 2003, Aristide requested that France pay Haiti over US$21 billion in reparations, which he said was the equivalent in today's money Haiti was forced to pay Paris after winning independence from France 200 years ago.

The United Nations Security Council, of which France is a permanent member, rejected a 26 February 2004, appeal from the Caribbean Community (CARICOM) for international peacekeeping forces to be sent into its member state Haiti, but voted unanimously to send in troops three days later, just hours after Aristide's forced resignation.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

Usians and Gusanos have always treated Haitians badly. Especially the Cubans, the US still gives special treatment to Cuban Gusanos, but in the 1980s and 1990s they used to give much more special treatment. When Haiti suffered a coup, after the first democratic government was established, many people fled to the US. The US treated them badly and treated Cubans much better than any other Latino group. The US only stopped doing this after democracy was restored in Haiti and Fidel started abusing this by basically sending anyone the Cuban government didn't like (criminals etc.) to the US.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If these people all spontaneously caught fire in front of me I would feel complete apathy

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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

The fascist news cycle is really going on overdrive. They're really pushing HARD on this anti-Haitian thing. I guess a nation created by KKKracker slavers never really changes.

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

This dude's dad is a piece of shit, but he sure can perform a pretty wicked villain dialogue.

More dramatic than the shit we usually see.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 10 months ago

What's funnier than liberals knowingly/unknowgly sneaking in idealistic errors into their arguments are conservatives who go all out with idealism. Like the last tweet there is what I might have written as a parody of idealism.

[–] gueybana@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] weeen@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Idk who's Dominican in those screenshots but I'm not surprised, they literally go Hitler mode whenever Haitians are mentioned.

I was looking at some nice pictures of Haiti on twitter and then in the replies I see 🇩🇴🇩🇴 nationalists crying. Their independence day isn't even from Spain, it's from Haiti!

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[–] Angel@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

More like deeplyunseriousposter

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