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[–] vzq@lemmy.world 93 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I spent way too much time looking for a hidden Saddam Hussein.

[–] griD@feddit.org 16 points 9 months ago

Same, same.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Narry an original thought in my head

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 75 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Segovia aqueduct, Spain. It gives you an idea of how insane Roman engineering was.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 57 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system, and public health...what have the Romans ever done for us??

[–] thepreciousboar@lemm.ee 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

And the unified currency!

[–] Trail@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

That was the ancient Greeks I believe

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago (2 children)

now i want to know how they drilled so deep, vertically and horizontally.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 77 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They were very good at sinking shafts. Roman engineering and mining was top of the line. An appalling callousness towards slave and worker casualties incurred in the process helped.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Very cool. I would of thought they used something like the archeamedas screw (oof I butchered his name. Still drinking coffee. Too lazy to Google correct spelling).

Excellent post, Pug

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Funny enough, they did use Archimedes' Screw in mining - mostly to pump out water though.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Very true, good catch

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can somebody please point out which bit is the very large faucet that they turned to send all of that water to LA?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

They denied LA much-needed water. The Romans made LA a desert, and called it peace 😔

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 30 points 9 months ago (3 children)

How does that siphon work? I would think they would need a pump of some kind, even if it's just a bunch of Roman workers/slaves turning an Archimedes Screw, to get the water to go uphill.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 50 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Same way a fuel siphon works, as long as the opening is below the inlet, and the rest of the tube is full and sealed, the water will flow.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphon

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How did the Romans seal that apparatus? Cement? Even that would fail rather quickly

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 9 points 9 months ago

Lead Pipes: http://www.romanaqueducts.info/siphons/siphons.htm

Also some terracotta pipes, but not really clear how its sealed.

[–] SaintWacko@slrpnk.net 7 points 9 months ago

It never would have occurred to me that siphons work that way, too!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

By why did they even need one here though?

[–] wischi@programming.dev 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Because it's simpler to build siphons through large valleys instead of 100 meter high 10 kilometer long aqueducts.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But you have to keep water pressure throughout the length of that tube, how did they do that with their materials?

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[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

For demonstration purposes only.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Valley was too deep for the aqueduct but they didn’t want to make the drawing taller just for that

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[–] troed@fedia.io 16 points 9 months ago

The "pump" is the higher elevation at the source.

[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you’ve ever used a siphon to drain a fish tank, it’s a similar concept. I believe the entrance is a bit higher than the exit, so I guess gravity and water pressure?

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not disagreeing with you there,, but if you've siphoned something you've probably done it with a polymer, how the heck were the Romans doing it? You can't get intestines sealed together tightly enough back in those days.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The Romans would often use lead or clay pipes with either dirt or concrete packed around them to make a solid seal that would resist the water pressure and not burst the pipe like a ripe fruit.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

It needs to be water pressure because atmospheric pressure can’t lift water more than about 10 metres.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What is the purpose of the drop shafts?

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

From Hydraulics of Roman Aqueducts : Steep Chutes, Cascades and Dropshafts (PDF warning):

The designs of dropshaft cascade, as well as steep chute followed by dissipation basin, show that the Roman aqueduct engineers were able to design specific features to cope with steep sections. It remains unclear whether they had some understanding of the hydraulic principles, or worked by observations and trial and error.

Most aqueducts were enclosed (covered) along their entire length, limiting the possibility for gas transfer at the free surface. Thus, the downstream waters were low in dissolved oxygen content unless reoxygenation devices were installed. I suggest that dropshafts may have been introduced in place of steep chutes in order to reoxygenate the water as well as to dissipate the energy of the flow. Aeration technology is commonly used today to reoxygenate depleted waters and to enhance the water quality. I recommend that further work by archaeologists focus on the excavation and survey of chutes and dropshaft to confirm this hypothesis.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

Really, really cool stuff

[–] Trail@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah so now I understand what the arcade map in path of exile is all about.

Not sure what's the difference to a aqueduct though.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just looked it up because I was wondering as well.

First, the image says "aqueduct bridge" for the first arched bridge, not "aqueduct", because the whole thing you see there is the aqueduct.

Second, while Romans also simply built walls if they didn't need as much elevation (and because they're easier to build than those arches), as soon as you have successive arches, you have an arcade. So in the image, they're both arcades and it's just labeled weirdly.

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[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Wait till you hear about quanats

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Frankly, I don't care how it all works as long as my slaves have my bath ready on time and the hypercaust nice and toasty.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Gonna need a lot of water for that nymphæum 🫧

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I had no idea what a nymphaeum was, and somehow I expected it to be some perverted roman thing. Turns out it's just a fountain place used for nymphae cult and some large ones double as a place for weddings...

Won't say what I imagined.

[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s ok we all know what you imagined

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry, you can enjoy the nymphs at the theatre. Tetimimi. It's a special attraction that's basically a stripper show in a pool.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 6 points 9 months ago

That's the Rome I know!

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 5 points 9 months ago

Get out of my head.

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