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[-] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 65 points 2 months ago

In the Art History courses I've taken, they usually talk about nudity in the realm of "it represents fertility" or something like that. Yeah sure... Venus of Urbino is totally about "fertility" and she's definitely not touching herself for any other reason.

[-] MonkeyDatabase@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago

The pose was copied from Dresden Venus. Where it's much more obvious that she's touching herself. Likely whoever commissioned it requested her to be like that.

Art History courses I've taken seem to gloss over the fact that most famous artwork is commissioned. The patrons of 1000 years ago are the same as the patrons of today. They're down bad and want titties & ass.

Maybe in 1000 years ahegao catgirls will "represent fertility"

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 28 points 2 months ago

and she's definitely not touching herself for any other reason.

How dare you, the ancients weren't tainted with the same levels of sexual proclivities found in modern society. They weren't just grooming those boys because they just wanted to fuck them, they were engaging in pedagogy, not pedophilia! It's why all my twink TA's are underclassmen, someone must teach the youth. - every male art history teacher

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 56 points 2 months ago

I've literally seen historical tentacle porn prints in an Asian art museum. It is wild.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 17 points 2 months ago

Citations please, for research of course.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I tried to find it, but I'm not in a good position up search right now lol. However! I believe I saw it in San Francisco's Asian Art Museum. Maybe another, slightly less compromised Lemming can source it, haha.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 28 points 2 months ago
[-] Mac@mander.xyz 23 points 2 months ago

Fun fact: That's the same artist as the famous The Great Wave off Kanagawa painting.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

There's probably more, but that's certainly one.

The same museum also has more soft core erotica art from that era.

[-] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

If my memory doesn't lie to me then the person that painted this very popular wave art made tentacle art as well.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Oh right! https://hero-magazine.com/article/183116/hokusai

Google sent me here and now I'm on a list. Lol

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 22 points 2 months ago

I mean Rubens is renowned for excess, theatricality and the truly fattest of arses, Hokusai's dream of the fisherman's wife literally kickstarted tentacle porn etc etc etc but yeah sure modern art bad sexual puritanism hur burr

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 13 points 2 months ago

Or naked baby angels. That's just pedo art. No wonder you see that shit in churches.

[-] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 37 points 2 months ago

This one is a stretch for me, honestly. I'm willing to have my mind changed, but prepubescent nudity was pretty common place before relatively recently. Like even super conservative sexually repressed Victorians didn't really consider baby nudity to be... Nudity. Like, there's just no there there, y'know? Kinda like how today you've got album covers like that nekkid baby in the pool, or they show female babies without a shirt on in movies/on TV. Because before a certain age it's just a nonissue.

Again, maybe I feel that way because I'm not into cherubim penis? Are there people super into nekkid baby angels and I'm just too sheltered to know about it?

[-] evranch@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't even say "before relatively recently" as it depends where you are. Up until my daughter was like 5 or so she was just fully naked or in a swim diaper at the beach and like you say nobody considered that to be "nudity".

But we're in rural Canada where we don't have the pedo paranoia that seems to have taken over America, and we just let our kids run free like we did.

Though it's growing in the cities and small towns now, not long ago in a nearby town there was a Facebook panic over a man in a white van driving slowly around town. Unsurprisingly he turned out to be a plumber looking for the right address.

[-] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Could be both honestly. Perhaps the relative abundance of otherwise innocuous material is more than just virtue signaling.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

Fuck the church and everything it stands for, but you need to stop whiffing your own farts and calling it roses.

[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

There’s no way cavemen weren’t the first people having bukakke gangbangs.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Little man surrounded by powerful, beautiful women. This is an early version of that Piper Perri meme.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

See also: Wonder Woman and bondage starting in 1941.

[-] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Balthus, 1934: The Guitar Lesson.

(Content warning, google at your own risk)

this post was submitted on 03 Oct 2024
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