Damn, spotify truly is a scourge to artists.
The entire music industry is built to grift money from musicians and Spotify is a second layer of musician grifting industry built on the first.
You know what, you've convinced. Your specific suggestion of 'guillotine' was particularly compelling.
Some years ago, an artist who was not a mega-star but was on all the major music services published an article detailing how well each one paid. I'm now kicking myself for not bookmarking it. I clearly remember Spotify being among the worst, if not the worst.
The musician I saw last week mentioned that he'll get more money if you buy a CD from him now than if you stream his catalog on spotify for the rest of your life.
Snoop Dogg said he got 45k for a billion streams.
Fractions of a penny.
I don't remember the artist's name. I'm pretty sure the article was a text post, probably a blog. Not a youtube video.
Holy shit. I have feet. Does anyone want pictures of a guy's feet? They're big and weirdly shaped.
I'm positive there is an audience for men's feet, but if you aren't 5 stars on wikifeet, you'll probably have to market yourself. Study the foot fetish community to find out what the dude foot fan needs more of. Etc.
Is there any way I can do this without finding out any more about this fetish?
Hmmm...the problem is, even if you just post pictures at random, you're going to find out unwanted info based on what pics bring in money. Sounds like you'd need a manager!
I wear a men's 14. Basically the DD's of feet. My wife says I'm not allowed to show them off for free so get our your wallets folks.
I'm a girl, in a healthy BMI and with nice hair, pretty and freckled face, but my feet are super crappy. Like, crusty, toes bend at weird angles, hard skin in random places. Even my own husband is like "plz no, stop" if they get too near to him.
I'm now wondering if there's a market on the other end of the scale...
There is. There’s a fetish for everything. Certainly when it involves your feet, I’d ask your husband if he’d be ok with some internet strangers paying you every month to see your feet, the worst is he says no, and on the other hand if he says yes you have a second source of easy income
He'd probably have empathy pains for any future subscribers.
It is my firm belief that, given a proper pitch, ANYTHING can be sold at a profit.
Also, there's rule 34: If a thing exists, it's someones fetish.
If it exists there is porn of it... Not sure where you got that other version from
I used to know a dude that would have gotten hard at your written description here. No bullshit. Dude was obsessed with feet, and what he called "real feet" were his particular favorite. Feet that had seen some life, had been used was one of the few things he would talk about. Literally obsessive about feet.
I guarantee he is not the only one. The only question is if there's enough like that to make any useful money out of a feet only business.
There's something about foot fetishists that's extra obsessive compared to any other fetishists I've run across over the years.
Post pictures of them on Onlyfans.
Add the caption "Listen up, degenerates. I'll only warn you once. I will release a new photo, closer than the previous, every hour, on the hour, until my subscriber goal is met."
The article contradicts the heck out of itself.
Says billboard estimates she earns roughly $4k a day from Spotify streams. Then they speculate she makes roughly 8k a month from OnlyFans.
That would be like $120k a month from Spotify and $8k a month from OnlyFans.
That is FAR from more money from OnlyFans. Even if those numbers are hugely off I don't see how the discrepancy would be THAT large.
That also happens to be exactly the kind of math error AI is notorious for making. I bet the article was written by AI and likely not even proofread by a human.
But 8 > 4??? /s
Good for her. If I thought there was a market for my disgusting claws I'd sell feet pics too.
Am I missing something? Does it not say she makes an estimated $4000 per DAY from Spotify and $8000 per MONTH from onlyfans?
Allen’s daily stream count on Spotify as of Oct. 17 was about 851,623. Assuming that number is correct, the Music Streaming Royalty Calculator estimates Spotify would’ve paid a total of $4,077 a day, with $3,239 going to sound recording for the copyright owner; $336 of mechanical royalties going to the publisher, who pays the songwriter; and $503 in performance royalties going to performance rights organizations (ASCAP, BMI, etc.).
Which of these numbers goes to her? I'm just confused, I think.
Everybody likes to hate Spotify but if they pay out 4000 dollars a day and the artist gets nothing, that doesn't sound like Spotify is the main problem.
That's pretty well known. They cut shitty deals with the record labels so they can have a large library. The record companies are making massive bank on Spotify, unlike pretty much every other party involved, including Spotify.
There's a definite industry problem, but that doesn't excuse Spotify.
Apple Music pays artists 50-100% more than Spotify do per play, and Tidal pay triple to quadruple. Even Amazon pay artists more than Spotify; only YouTube is worse.
An unknown and probably pitiful fraction of $336, by the looks of it.
$336 of mechanical royalties going to the publisher, who pays the songwriter
Ok I did a little searching. She might get some of the $336 to the publisher/songwriter, but only if she is credited as a writer. Not every song is written by the artist. There doesn't seem to be anything in that breakdown that goes to the artist specifically. The bulk of the money is going to the copyright owner, who is often the record company, and seems to be who owns her songs. It seems like whatever she gets paid would be up to whatever contract she signed with them.
This pdf file explains that a typical major label artist might make 18% of the $4077 per day.
https://www.manatt.com/Manatt/media/Media/PDF/US-Streaming-Royalties-Explained.pdf
If she makes $266 a day from onlyfans, she has to be making around 8% of the $3,239 the record company is getting daily for it to be less than onlyfans.
The article is missing the content from the quoted article for the 4,000 a day. It pays out 4,000 a day to the studios and publishers, whatever actually % of that she gets is probably less than 10.
I wonder how much her record label makes from her music on Spotify...
Something I've noticed in British media as of late is that OnlyFans makes some serious money - enough so that a creator can essentially use local journalism as an outlet for promoting their page.
I doubt some of the figures, but if you were to dig into them you'd probably see that number after the media have basically told people "look! Lily Allen has OnlyFans!"
Alongside that, funny enough, OnlyFans is probably one of the UK's biggest tech success stories. They make a lot of money, have only a few employees, and are basically leaders in their field. That's probably another weighing towards this being a promo piece.
What's fun is that some people who read this article are probably into feet (good for them!) so it's like an ad and now she'll probably make even more on onlyfans. While still making ludicrously little from spotify.
Spotify is a fucking racket
Seeing how this thread is full of hate for Spotify by seeming large number of people who are fans of streaming music/podcast services, I'll pos this question here:
What are the better alternatives for someone seeking to get their favored audios, in terms of library selection, able to form custom playlists and how much if any support to the artist/content creator actually gets to them and what is pocketed by the app?
I don't think there's all-in-one best option
library size
Deezer
how much is paid to the creator
Bandcamp
Perhaps this just means people value her feet more than music? I'm not into feet, but I really didn't like her music, so maybe this is reasonable.
Not really. It just means onlyfans pays more than Spotify... which seems obvious to me??? A direct subscription to an artist vs only a few cents per play... yeah, no brainer, the artist is going to make less money in the latter deal.
It’s worth noting that Allen doesn’t actually claim she earns more money from OnlyFans than Spotify. “imagine being and artist and having nearly 8 million monthly listeners on spotify but earning more money from having 1000 people subscribe to pictures of your feet. don’t hate the player, hate the game.”
According to the singer, the decision has already paid off, as her monthly revenue from the subscription site has surpassed her Spotify income.
Seems like she claims monthly revenue from OG surpassed Spotify revenue.
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