Subway sued for exaggerating meat by 200% : expectationvsreality

[+] _bcron_@lemmy.world 176 points 2 months ago

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[-] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 138 points 2 months ago

Subway has previously made headlines in legal news because their footlongs were under a foot long, and because their 100% chicken was half soy. If anything, they deserve some extra scrutiny.

Love to see this

[-] GluWu@lemm.ee 46 points 2 months ago

Subway has constant contamination outbreaks causing waves of food poisoning like every year. They killed someone in the UK. McDonald's literally just killed someone with bad quarter pounders.

I got food poisoning from subway once and have never had it since. Being concerned about whether it looks like the advertisement is gone, we're back to having to be concerned about whether you could die from eating something. Isn't it nice, I feel far more connected to the traditional ways before germ theory.

[-] omsai@reddthat.com 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They killed someone in the UK. McDonald’s literally just killed someone with bad quarter pounders.

To add context, the CDC announced the cause to be the yellow onions [1] in the quarter pounders; McDonalds stopped serving onions in their quarter pounders and stopped sourcing onions from that supplier facility "indefinitely" (Taylor Farms in Colorado Springs) [2].

(Edit: grammar)

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Subway has the lowest cost to enter a franchise, so it attracts a lot of people that can't really afford a better brand. So everything goes to the lowest bidder, so everything is shit.

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[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

LIKE THE PEPSI JET LAWSUIT THAT ENDED UP IN FAVOR OF PEPSI

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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 97 points 2 months ago

...oh that's a lot worse than 200%

[-] Subtracty@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Very scientific approach.

[+] Echrichor@feddit.uk 54 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[-] General_Shenanigans@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

I worked for Subway back in ‘99 when I was in high school. We took pride in it back then, as well. Now, the pictures still didn’t match the product back then. The steak was a relatively new product back then, and I do remember the photos being sort-of like this one: All the meat pushed toward the camera. But nobody cared. You got to watch that shit being made right in front of you. It was always status quo as far as I can remember that pictures never matched what you got at a fast food place. BUT, if you did a good job, you’d sometimes learn just how happy somebody was to get a sandwich EXACTLY the fucking way they wanted it to be.

That’s not to say there’s not something very wrong there and that a line shouldn’t be drawn, though. They’ve gotten away with it for far too long, I think. In fact, I don’t think it was ever this extreme in the manipulation. Yeah, I’m going to actually side with you on this one and say that they definitely went too far in the image manipulation department. Expectations are everything, and I would actually hate to work at Subway now if this is what people’s expectations are set at. You would probably almost never get that stoked customer that got an exactly what they wanted. In a customer service field, that’s basically a death rattle.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 months ago

Very interesting

[-] mydoomlessaccount@infosec.pub 53 points 2 months ago

When you only have so much meat to work with, it's vital to at least learn how to photograph it flatteringly.

[-] Subtracty@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

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[-] Tronn4@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

It's all about the angles

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[-] bigdug@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

Maybe they just trimmed the bread back to make the meat appear more substantial...

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I’ve watched videos on how they photograph food and let’s just say that this cheese is probably some coloured PVA glue or something.

Due to the time it can take to shoot food and the heat from the lights it’s not ideal (I think they should be forced to photograph the actual product and this is all absurd, but I’m just talking about this photo) to use the actual food.

I’ve seen glue in lieu of milk for cereal adverts, as one such example.

It’s pretty interesting from a technical viewpoint and you can search it up on YouTube.

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[-] nicerdicer@feddit.org 51 points 2 months ago

I like it that Subway's bread can't be considered as bread, because of the high ammount of sugar.

In 2020, it ruled that the sugar content in Subway's savory sandwich bread was above the legal limit required to be labeled "bread," according to the country's Value-Added Tax Act of 1972, which states that for a baked good to qualify as bread, its sugar content cannot exceed 2% of the total weight of flour.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

2 percent is frankly a little low for the bar sugar by weight to still be considered bread, but 10 percent(which is where they were at) is obviously outrageous. If you want a really aggressive rise while keeping a high hydration, adding sugar and heat can get you there. I don't think you're making bread anymore beyond 4 percent though.

[-] Luccus@feddit.org 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Maybe I'm too European for this, but I would never have thought of putting sugar in regular bread. Even milk buns don't have added sugar in them, unless you count lactose.

…I'll have to try this, because it sounds off to me. Like putting a dishwasher in the bathroom. Not really insane. But I'd quietly judge someone who does that.

Edit: Not great for bread.

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

The only reason I would use a very small amount of sugar is to jump start the yeast. That shouldn't even take a teaspoon though, and it's only necessary when you have to get a faster rise.

The bread tastes better when you let it rise slowly though.

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wasn't that in France specifically where they have more legal and commercial terms for bread than English speakers? For example a term more descriptive of what Subway serves translates to a "Sweet".

But yeah 10% is a lot.

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[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 months ago

every shred of meat is pictured. the rest of the bun is empty and its propped up and angled as such to make it appear 'full'.

arbys does the same thing. you have to literally pile all the meat on one edge of the bun and take the picture at a certain angle to hide the emptiness behind it.

[-] superweeniehutjrs@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

The image of a food staging crew and photographer also having an independent auditor signing off that yes that is 2.2oz of meat popped into my head. Auditor is dragged into court with scale calibration reports all over a sandwich. No matter what it is deceitful advertising.

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 months ago

I worked at Arby’s in the 90s, we did not have to fake the meat back then.

[-] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 months ago

Does that make it legal in your country?

There's no way companies should be able to abuse these technicalities. Don't you have teleological interpretations of laws - meaning laws being interpreted by considering the intent behind them?

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[-] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 33 points 2 months ago

I just want to know why the Subways in my city are now both more expensive and less tasty/filling than any other sub/hoagie options in the area.

I don't go to subway anymore because the last footlong I bought cost me $13, no drink no chips, and was skimpy as hell. The next day I went to a deli/convenience chain and bought a $10 sandwich that was longer, fresher, and thicker.

[-] 31337@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

In the past, they used their relatively low prices to gain customers and are now exploiting people who just go there out of habit or don't pay much attention to prices. A lot of the large chains are now more expensive and have worse quality than smaller stores and chains now.

[-] Hiatus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Same. You can get firehouse for the same price as subway here. It's a no brainer. We still have a few quiznos around as well, which are marginally better than subway. I can't imagine why anyone would visit one anymore outside of it literally being the only option in the immediate area.

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[-] DynoNoob@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

I should call her.

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago

I used to get their meatballs subs because they were fairly cheap ($5 per footlong). It's supposed to have eight meatballs per sub. Once they gave me seven. I thought maybe the guy made a mistake and didn't think much of it. The next time I went, it was seven meatballs again. That was the last time I had Subways.

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[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

We need to incorporate portion veracity into food sanitation checks. Food safety guy goes in, buys all three sizes of fries, weighs them all, compares to the nutritional fact values posted by the company.

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 months ago

I got a large fry from BK a couple weeks ago and it had less fries than my wife’s medium. BK’s response was that mine probably settled more than hers.

[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

A nice way of saying Fuck Off, basically. No consumer protections for this kind of thing exist, at least in the USA. Other than Weights and Measures enforcing scale calibrations if you buy things by weight.

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[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

After this is over I'd like them to look into Honey Bunches of Oats cereal. The name starts with Honey and the word "honey" is used more than any other noun on the box, which is designed to look like the stuff is dripping with honey, but in the ingredients list honey is way down at the bottom between salt and food coloring.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

Raisin Bran...barely a raisin in it now.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Interesting - Instead of Kellogg's I buy the non-name brand at Safeway and it has tons of raisins.

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[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

This is why I haven't eaten fast food in years. Precisely because I haven't had good fast food in years.

All the while it's more expensive than ever. Why are execs surprised sales are dwindling?

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

The $5 foot long was their whole ad campaign for years, now they’re running ads about LOWERING the foot long price to 6.99. The quality never improved and quantity has gone down, but still they must charge more to make line go up forever. It’s insane

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

When my kid was little, he had some food allergies (thankfully he grew out of them). The last time I went to subway they refused to share allergy info AS MANDATED BY LAW. That was the last time I went

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

While I think they have an excellent case here I don't think the image on the right is a fair comparison photo. They should both be lined up in the same orientation without being handled.