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The Office was never good.
There. I said it.
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Counterargument: The Office is my comfort slop but I also hate myself.
Ya I fucking hated it. The UK version wasn't enjoyable, and the US version is another level of shit.
Not only it was never good but also super cringey and unfunny from my experience of watching some episodes of it.
To be fair it is cringe comedy so the fact that it is cringe is undeniable but also on purpose.
That's a good point you're right. I guess I find cringey comedy to be uncomfortable which I can't explain all too well. Parks and Recs on the other hand that's my slop when I am super not in good mood.
Cringe comedy is fundamentally bad, both in quality and moral terms.
I understand not liking cringe comedy but can you explain why you think it's morally bad?
It's an inherently down-punching type of comedy.
I don't think that's true. Cringe comedy certainly punches down sometimes, as many types of comedy do, but to say it is "inherently down punching" seems pretty rediculous to me. There are plenty of examples of cringe comedy where the majority or all of the cringing is being done at bad people, or people who hold power over others. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is a good example. That show definitely has problematic aspects, but pretty much 100% of the cringe moments in it are because of awful stuff the awful main cast are doing. Even going back to the Office, which I don't really like either, I'd argue the majority of cringing that happens is at the expense of Michael, the racist, sexist boss. Obviously both these shows have problematic aspects like most comedy does, and I'm not defending them, but I do think it's kind of rediculous to say that cringe comedy is inherently reactionary, or that it inherently punches down on marginalized people. I won't deny many examples of it do, but that's not because of some inherent flaw in the medium, it's because we live in a deeply racist, sexist, ableist, homophobic and transphobic society, and our popular media reflects that.
IASIP is totally unwatchable for me, I need characters with at least some positive aspect.
From what I've seen of the Office, even the racist sexist boss isn't "cringe" and the butt of jokes because he's racist or sexist or a boss but because he's profoundly socially unaware and inept.
I’ve never watched a clip, let alone an entire episode and I’m not starting now.
I think it started the mockumentory genre, but I probably wouldn't watch if you're young and not into that genre.
This Is Spinal Tap was around about 20 years before The Office and that probably wasn't the first one.
That style has gotten severely overplayed. It went from a novel upending of the normie three camera comedy to be a paint by numbers trope itself.
It's desperately unfunny
i thought it was funny :)
Counterpoint: The first season was a slog and I can see why people get turned off it. Not to say it's amazing after but it's pretty good until Steve Carrell leaves.
What's wrong with being over 30 
Nothing's wrong with being over 30, we're just not in "The Demo" anymore.
Yeah, technically it's 18-34 but the segment of "The Demo" most stuff is targeted to is under 30.
Jesus I’m way outside ‘The Demo’
Don't people 35 and up have more money? What makes kids so special? More impressionable?
The over 30’s have more money but less of it is disposable income.
Don't people 35 and up have more money?
In my dreams.
Special in that they are more targetable by advertisers because they are less likely to have settled into brand loyalty already, more likely to need durable goods (of the sort that older people have and don't need to replace) and have less responsibilities ie more time and proportion of income to spend on slop.
I gotcha.
Roaming isn't a thing anymore? 
Roaming nowadays has largely been surplanted by E-sims, but in this scene they're talking about inter-state roaming charges. The woman in the screenshot is from florida and she's supposedly getting roaming charges while in Pennsylvania
Even when the show came out roaming wasn’t a thing. Roaming has nothing to do with esims and it has to do with which cell network you are connected to. In the American context, if your provider is Verizon but where you are you can only connect to T-Mobile towers then you are roaming.
MVNO networking is more common now even with the big providers where the roaming is "free" because they lease or trade bandwidth.
Some of a telco’s biggest customers and biggest vendors are other telcos.
MVNOs operate on MNO networks. MVNOs have agreements on access and usage to use MNO networks. MNOs also have agreements with other MNOs to roam on each other’s networks. These are called access charges and access revenue
It's kinda dumb when all this could just be nationalized and run under one umbrella, but MNO and MVNO leasing is at least better than having to pay roaming charges because Verizon or AT&T don't have ownership of the Bell infrastructure in your region because that's how the cards fell when they broke it up.
Every time I drive back to my parents' place I hit patches where I'm roaming.
The Harry Potter libs favorite show is the office